Like said before, run Forest, ruuunnnnnnnnnnnnnn......................

A link to my story.




http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/b...appen-you.html

I would find a different boat, but, if you must do this deal,,, you don't pay or deal with the seller,
you get the name of his finance co., call them to get exact payoff info. and instructions,, he should have had you do this from the beginning,

thanks for all the input.

Seller called me an idiot when I told him to take out a temporary loan to pay off the boat so he could free up the titles and make the transaction easier. Sad thing is I went to check out this boat and he told me to look at the titles and it never even dawned on me to check them for liens because I trusted him. A lot of red flags on this deal and I will move on.

For private sales to go through smoothly, do you only need a good survey and clear titles? I am always 100x more worried to do private deals in this scamming world anymore.

and then have them tell you where you can PHYSICALLY SHOW UP AND PICK UP THE TITLES IN PERSON AT THE SAME TIME THE PAYOFF IS HANDED OVER

I mean really how hard is it to get a telephone, website, business license, "company name" and then have your idiot co-conspirators list false boat ads online and people call and you give them info on how to send money off into financial never never land and you wake up one day and you have been screwed

read the stories linked in this thread.....formerly "legitimate" RV dealers that had their floorplan (all their cars, trucks, vans, boats and RVs) locked uo by the bank, but they still took the money and promised the titles

or a boat dealer (told by someone else in that same thread) that was "consigning" a boat and took the cash and did not hand it over to the owner nor did he send the titles to the boat to the person that handed him the cash instead he used it for "winter operations"

in a case like this 99.99999999% of the time the boat is going to belong to the person that holds the title and if you have to go to court you will be suing someone that is worthless and most likely has a dozen other lawsuits against them either pending or already lost and still unsettled and not a pot to piss in.....so you will get nothing for your cash and like it

not able to physically view titles at time of the transaction not handing off money period the end......there are only 200+ stories on this forum alone and about ONE MILLION on the interwebtubes saying the exact same thing over and over and over and they go from one fool that managed to scam another fool to one person that took hundreds for millions.....and still walks the earth today and is still in the boat business no less.....working for a company that looks like they might be having some "issues" here soon if you read other threads

no titles NO MONEY......not in an hour, not in a minute and not in a day or next week and if there are any questions (like the seller already lying in the current ad and being caught selling someone elses boat in the past) then no deal no way no how unless we are at the DMV with titles in hand and the cash changes hands as the DMV issues new titles in my name

too many other Baja Outlaws (going into WINTER NO LESS) for sale on the face of the earth to even consider this deal any longer than thought has already been wasted on it

smoking the bong would have been a 1000% better use of the brain cells, time and money

Even then, any 14 year old with photoshop can make you a nice new clear title...its a scarey world we live in

One side of my brain says this guy is just screwing with you guys to stir the pot , but then every day dozens of people fall for stuff like this , but leinholder info should be easily verified through where the boat was registered ,its a pita to go get the release of lein papers done and usually person named on loan has to be there , gotta know what your doing or you will likely get screwed

Give me $5,000 in cash and let me kick you square in the nuts! It will cost you less and the pain will go away much faster than getting involved in a deal like that. You know the guy did a fake ad and you are still talking to him? Make it $10,000..............

There's about 8 zillion Baja's available and you get caught up on this scam? I purchased my boat with a lien and my bank and the sellers bank made sure the lien was satisfied bank to bank. Luckily I was also dealing with an upstanding honest seller too. This was a scam all the way. I'm currently selling my boat and get scam offers all the time involving buyers who don't even want to see the boat but come up with odd money wiring schemes. C'mon man!

This is pretty normal with my experiences....

I don't know about the instant part....Usually takes some time for the bank to produce the title...