How much this COULD be worth?
 

Been trying to sell my Avanti, but hardly anyone knows about the hull's heritage, connection to Don Aronow, Banana boat, Coyote, Sonic, so I won't get into it.
So,, how much the boat would be worth with the following set up
2008 Hull, 2001 496's, (under 200 hours) Bravo drives, K-planes, McCloud El. bolsters, Gaffrieg gauges, mirrored hatch. Imco PS. 1000 W stereo, all the typical goodies, bunch of LED's all over. 250 Gal racing tanks. Custom graphics. etc.
She has 525's and XR' shorties, but I have a project that I'm thinking about and might take out the 525's and XR's and reduce the price of course.
I had the same hull years ago with 496's and she did mid to upper 70's with labbed props. With the 525's, XR's and ITS she goes to upper 80's.
So.. how much $ with the 496's ?
Thx
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I am not sure on pricing but if you have the facilities to do the work yourself, you will get more overall return keeping the 525s and Xr's for yourself and installing the the 496's. Realistically it will only decrease the overall value of the boat by a percentage of what the 525's are worth and might actually help to sell the boat at a lower price to someone looking to get into a bigger boat on a budget.

Sort of what I was thinking. I can get the 525's etc. out, but I would not want to install. I just have to do the math with this project I'm considering.

Ya if the labor for the work can be done for a fair price then I say it is worth it. The 496's shouldn't effect the price too bad and actually might draw in a few buyers that didn't want the extra work and upkeep of the Merc blue's.

If you can get them out and the 496's in for good price I think it will work out best for ya.

Theres a 33 that's 5 yrs older than yours with low hr 496/b1 ASKING @$69,900
Use that as a baseline comp and add a few grand for the year difference.

I think it's a big mistake to start switching it. It's going to make it more difficult to sell your boat. You've already got a boat built by a company that not many people know. To add your selling a 2008 boat with 2001 motors is only going to hurt the resale even more. Perhaps one way to consider moving forward would be selling the boat minus power and engines separately. Why invest the time and money installing old motors in a new boat? Anyone that buys an your boat will most probably realize its capabilities and will rip those old 496's out.

Don't be so sure on that last statement.


There are many buyers like me that have no desire to ever have a Merc blue motor regardless of the extra speed. Even the guy looking at buying my boat currently passed over a Merc blue motor boat cause he didn't want the extra upkeep.

I'm looking for a $ value more than anything. Not sure what's that 33 you referencing, but seems a start. I seen a 33 something Sonic, (in the class sect) pretty much the same hull with different deck for $70K as well. Few years older. If the Avanti could be sold for $80+K with the 496's I will do it. I have the 496's and bravos available. Taking out I can do, putting them in I would have some one do it.
I can get the 525's etc. out, but I would not want to install. I just have to do the math with this project I'm considering. Swapping the motors and drives is not a big deal. The hardest thing is to figure out the "new" 496 set up with the custom steering. The 525's are set up that I have 2 PS units with a pressure regulator, so if I shut one motor of, I still have 100% steering. I don't have the typ. primary motor for the steering. Both have the pumps so either one could be used if one fails or I just put-put on one motor. It's a safety thing I worked out with IMCO and I can lower the hours when I just go in no wake zones, or slow, I don't need both motors so I can alternate and keep the hours down. It's great but it will be a bit tricky to transfer to the 496's, if they only use one pump. Worse case I just add a PS pump to the one that doesn't have it. Minor details :)

BTW, Nate. Did you sell the boat? What happened with the "meeting" ? Your sonic is pretty compatible with the Avanti W/496's. Hull a bit older, motors a bit newer. 75-80K seem inline.

I'd have to say you may be going in the wrong direction thinking a repower with less H.P & Bravo drives will sell your boat. Without insulting you I'd suggest your problem is you have a boat that has a heritage as you described but few really know anything about Avanti powerboats outside of a couple websites where you may post. They are/were a low production builder and there also is the issue with multiple builders and legal problems if you do a internet search. Comparing it to Don Aronow, Banana boat, Coyote, Sonic is fine but Sonic is the only one building boats now and many people don't know who Aronow is.

He is bringing his wife to see it and we are setting up a sea trial. He is genuinely interested. So I am hoping it all works out. I would say the hurdle if any is he has a 23' boat he wants to sell first but it is not a must he does.


I also agree with your price point area bud.

The 2003 33 avanti I'm referencing is listed on pbl.
Same page as your boat.
$140k I think is all the $ ( no offense )
Good luck with the sale.

P.s. the other acronym for BOAT is less commonly used, and only applies to sellers.bend OverAND takeit.

I do agree with you as far as the knowledge about the Avanti's. However I am not "comparing". Aronow, JC Simon and Charlie Mcarthy were involved with the inception and the design. The legal issues are with another builder using the "Avanti" name. But I understand your point. Re-powering has 2 objectives. Lower the selling price and get a project going that I'm contemplating. Besides, lol I thought everyone know who is Aronow. :)

I know that red boat. Seen it around Ft. Myers. My graphics is a 1000 times better lol. I thought BOAT means. Brake Out Another Thousand.

the ad on boat trader shows the engines with no exhaust, you might want to get that fixed as there is no explanation for them missing. http://www.boattrader.com/listing/20...3-OS-101658511

[QUOTE=Wobble;4218237]the ad on boat trader shows the engines with no exhaust, you might want to get that fixed as there is no explanation for them missing. [url]http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2008
LOL.. That's a picture while it was getting rigged. That add should have been pulled LOONG ago. I will talk to Scotty to have it pulled.

Hmmm.. I can't edit.
Anyway, the price was dropped by 10K. some time ago, and the other pix shows complete. But thanks for the note.

Not sure about your original question but for what it's worth your boat is clearly the nicest looking Avanti I've ever seen for sale based on the pictures on PBL. It looks like they pulled out all the stops with this one and loaded it with some great options. Good luck with your sale

Thank you. I like her too but I'm going in different direction with boating. Many of the extras and stuff was added as a semi customized project. The original builder just did the interior, seats and gauges. All the rest was done after the hull was delivered to Tampa. Lights, speakers, motors and drives, etc, was done after the bare hull delivery.

why not just sell it less power and move on to your new project....

My "new project" have the 496's. I could sell the Avanti with no power, then I would still have to sell the 496's. :)

Staggered 38' white and blue race boat with the #3's that was on ebay? That Would Be Sweet With Some whippled 525's

Right, however in your case it makes more sense to sell separate than together. The mismatch of years between the boat and motors are going to be a huge drawback in your sale. If it was an older boat and newer motors it wouldn't matter. Also, as you stated your going to have to pay someone to install the 496's, so not only are you throwing good money after bad (old motors in newer boat) but you may be adding cost to the buyer if he decides he wants to rip out. In my opinion, you list boat without motors with the option of having them sold with/installed and list the motors separately.

While it is a cool boat.....lots of options out there from competing 37-42 ft boats........I wouldn't swap out for old motors, just makes the boat more oddball.

If you want a real world opinion, call Shogren at Pier 57 and run your idea by him. He is probably one of the few people that can put real world numbers on the deal.