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^^^^ Totally agree but sometimes you pick a career path of the things you like and hold a huge interest for especially growing up. I really can not say currently that the younger generation are really into hot rodding or working on hybrid auto's but this could be held true if was hot rodding their little Asian 4 banger car or pick up truck. I totally agree about a career path for hybid or alternative fuel(s) auto or energy efficient related technology.
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Originally Posted by BUP
(Post 4231904)
just wanted to say about the marine business overall. One is the engines are becoming so technology advance that your do it yourselfer is going to be lost nor has the proper tools to fix them. It is expensive buy in these days to buy marine related tools for every engine app or even the popular ones. The end user is going to NEED the advance marine tech to fix and work on his app. If the end user can not get his app properly fixed and or in a timely manner his perception is the product he bought is junk and pretty much non usable plus will never buy that product (boat / engine again). The Marine OEM's are starting to look deeply into how do we fix this and how do we prevent this.
Next is the marine OEM's engine manu's and the OEM dealers are having problems with the current pool of techs to replace the aging techs of today. the aging techs are stepping down plus its getting harder to have access to work on these darn boats because of the way they are laid out. Aging techs can not bend like they use to. Another reason to retire. The younger generation is not interested in learning this field nor becoming an advance tech. They, OEM's in the past have not look at this deeply until now. There is going to be a real shortage of very good marine techs coming up here soon. You can not take the aging tech that is retiring and replace him with another aging tech. Will not work so the OEM's are struggling with how to find and or get trained the younger generation to professionally work on boats correctly and keep focused in that field for years down the road. It is going to be a huge problem. They younger crowd is not interested plus somewhat lack the mechanical skills of the past generations. More info on this down the road soon. . |
I was talking about professional marine techs being of a young generation not owning a boat. They are not interested in working on boats making it their career choice like past generations, So the big problem for the OEM marine engine manu's - were are the new marine techs going to come from as the aging ones retire or quit.
Also some of this boat buying is wrong as wakeboard boats sell and are selling point blank, The number one age range for buying wakeboard boats BRAND NEW are 25 thru 40. the age bracket numbers span out 25 to 50 years of age but the mass come from 25 to 40. The new wakeboard boats sell for 80K to 150k and the used wakeboard market is off the charts. Ask dealers who sell them. How do I know, I sold wakeboard boats new and used up till about 3 years ago. My youngest buyer for these new wakeboard boats was 20 and my oldest was 45. Everyone else was in between that age bracket. I can look at the sales number as whole or by boat manufacturer daily if I choose to. next 6500 brand new wakeboard boats sold this year and they are from 12 main builders with 20 to 24 foot in size mainly. Sportboat / Performance boats would be lucky to have sold 200 brand new boats and what maybe 3000 used for the whole year. To further this statement sportboats would be lucky to have sold a 1000 brand new boats in the last 7 years combined, Wakeboard boats have sold around 40,000 brand new boats in the past 7 years total, Again the bulk of this buyer is 25 to 40 year old and their is only 12 main manufacturers making wakeboard boats in the size range of 20 to 24 feet. . The fact of the matter is Sportsboats are very dead for new sales and poor for used boat sales especially compared to other models of being sold on the used market. Family rec / pleasure boats are dead to, |
Originally Posted by BUP
(Post 4232087)
I was talking about professional marine techs being of a young generation not owning a boat. They are not interested in working on boats making it their career choice like past generations, So the big problem for the OEM marine engine manu's - were are the new marine techs going to come from as the aging ones retire or quit.
Also some of this boat buying is wrong as wakeboard boats sell and are selling point blank, The number one age range for buying wakeboard boats BRAND NEW are 25 thru 40. the age bracket numbers span out 25 to 50 years of age but the mass come from 25 to 40. The new wakeboard boats sell for 80K to 150k and the used wakeboard market is off the charts. Ask dealers who sell them. How do I know, I sold wakeboard boats new and used up till about 3 years ago. My youngest buyer for these new wakeboard boats was 20 and my oldest was 45. Everyone else was in between that age bracket. I can look at the sales number as whole or by boat manufacturer daily if I choose to. next 6500 brand new wakeboard boats sold this year and they are from 12 main builders with 20 to 24 foot in size mainly. Sportboat / Performance boats would be lucky to have sold 200 brand new boats and what maybe 3000 used for the whole year. To further this statement sportboats would be lucky to have sold a 1000 brand new boats in the last 7 years combined, Wakeboard boats have sold around 40,000 brand new boats in the past 7 years total, Again the bulk of this buyer is 25 to 40 year old and their is only 12 main manufacturers making wakeboard boats in the size range of 20 to 24 feet. . The fact of the matter is Sportsboats are very dead for new sales and poor for used boat sales especially compared to other models of being sold on the used market. Family rec / pleasure boats are dead to, Truth....I know a guy who owns a Ski Nautique dealership....Wife and the kids were bored on Saturday so we went in and checked them out....They are nice boats, especially on the inside, but not my cup of tea...His sales are insane from what I have seen on the lake...He wanted me to buy one and said I could get on the spot financing if I wanted it, but again, its not my thing...Here's a video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IryOQfEmgtQ |
Cause the kids today would not be happy or stimulated enough to head with their dad over to the ramp, sit around and watch the boats getting launched. Its too "boring". Thats what i used to do with my dad as a kid and first saw how cool the SOB's looked. We eventually talked to people at the ramp and bought our first boat, a Checkmate Enchanter with a big 225 Merc on the back. I wish he was around to head over to the ramp now.
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Most people my age or around it 27 don't know how to work on crap. Most don't have a trade or know how to build anything. The generation will be in trouble with all the worthless digrees that have been pushed on us. Took the rute of leaning 2 trades and has been great for me. Also while not redoing my boat by my self I have learned a lot.
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no one wants to be a tech because after 2 years plus 30000 worth of schooling and 10 thousand in tools marinas around her only want to pay 18 bucks an hour when they are charging the customer 110 to 130.
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Originally Posted by tommymonza
(Post 4232254)
no one wants to be a tech because after 2 years plus 30000 worth of schooling and 10 thousand in tools marinas around her only want to pay 18 bucks an hour when they are charging the customer 110 to 130.
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Originally Posted by f_inscreenname
(Post 4232266)
It's all the trades. I was in flooring for 25 years. The money I have in education, tools, truck, insurance, workers comp, etc, etc.... After 5 years of taking losses I'm done. In my area its foreign nationals that have destroyed the industry. The guy that gets the check has to be legal. And for his 12 helpers .....as long as the guy who gets the check is legal is what I herd over and over. BS! I thought with the economy being bad a lot of them would go home and things would get better but with Obamas recent actions is the final nail is in the coffin. Hope all the people and companies around here that support these actions have kids without jobs and if they can scrape together enough for a new floor they get the guy that's has less experience then what would train our helpers and when the warranty work comes up they went home with their money and leave the POS company to pay for it.
4 guys show up from 3 different countries 1 barely speaks english. They set the top and it is off by a 1/2 inch from the back splash and if i didn't catch them they would have set it that way.They gouged the front door coming in,dripped epoxy all over the old wood floor and tracked it onto the condos freshly painted entry where they wiped it up with Acetone and cut the paint. If I wasn't tearing up the old wood floor next and replacing it they would have done the job for free plus owed me a some money. |
Off subject and thread, but all my subcontracts have a clause that only English speaking, legal workers may work on my jobsites. If I can't explain my and OSHA safety rules, and it needs to be interpreted, you not stepping on the site, Period. All the "outsourcing" etc. Obamasucka put this country in the toilet. Young kids have a tough time getting a job because some AH, foreigner willing to work for less and the Gov. gives them subsidized $. BBBBbbeee ESSssss..
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