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Old 01-08-2015, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by lil red
Put 200,000 into the sutphen wonder how fast it would be then? Enough weight and steps let's see dollar p/mph
remember buckshot,,removing material from our boats is a bad thing.
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Old 01-08-2015, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Sutphen606
But how much are the steps adding? No one is saying that steps don't add mph. It is just the percentage being questioned. No idea what the Sutphen weighs with blower motors and 6's, but the Sutphen site lists the new '40 with 525s and Bravos at 9180 lbs. It seems safe to assume the '39 weighs a bit more with the big motors and drives. The boat has run 107 and it isn't staggered, it isn't dry sumped with the better lowers and has less horsepower. How much do all of the pre-listed ingredients also add to the mph? You are talking a 20 mph difference which is a large amount when you are in the 100's, but it isn't all coming from the steps. Certainly the percentage will change on a case by case basis.
I ask Danny to build me the 5 step bottom for my boat.He didn't bite.damn
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Old 01-08-2015, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by sutphen 30
I ask Danny to build me the 5 step bottom for my boat.He didn't bite.damn
You need to get back to work SSS !!!!!!!
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Old 01-08-2015, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Sutphen606
But how much are the steps adding? No one is saying that steps don't add mph. It is just the percentage being questioned. No idea what the Sutphen weighs with blower motors and 6's, but the Sutphen site lists the new '40 with 525s and Bravos at 9180 lbs. It seems safe to assume the '39 weighs a bit more with the big motors and drives. The boat has run 107 and it isn't staggered, it isn't dry sumped with the better lowers and has less horsepower. How much do all of the pre-listed ingredients also add to the mph? You are talking a 20 mph difference which is a large amount when you are in the 100's, but it isn't all coming from the steps. Certainly the percentage will change on a case by case basis.
Id say that Herbs boat is about 800-1000lbs heavier with blower, wet 6's and #6gimbals vs the bravo/525's. but you also have to consider the fact that fiberglass/wood boats do get heavier over time, so herbs boat could weigh in at 11500ish. The difference in a step bottom vs flat is the loading of the boat coming in and out of the water, even in rough,choppy water, is greater in a flat bottom boat vs one with steps. Id say that steps add about 12-18% over non steps. Even the difference between boats that have steps there is a difference. A 46Cig rough Rider w 1075's 3 steps does 116mph and my 46 OL has 5 steps same power and drives does 127mph
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Old 01-08-2015, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by shaun harrington
You need to get back to work SSS !!!!!!!
change your "My Boats" to 37 OL.as the song goes,,"To much time on my hands" now I have to go police speeds of boats.
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Old 01-08-2015, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by sutphen 30
change your "My Boats" to 37 OL.as the song goes,,"To much time on my hands" now I have to go police speeds of boats.
You need to change yours to "30 Sutphen (for sale), 34 Sutphen Outrageous"
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Old 01-08-2015, 12:01 PM
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I see this thread has been "hijacked again". I guess I am supposed to say something at this point. So here goes. Since I'm not about to spend another $75-$100,000 on a 92 boat that like most of us I have way too much money into already. This is purely speculation mind you. But........I read on here, I would think, where Reggie said a full stagger depending upon the boat was good for 10-15 mph. If I were to stagger the Sutphen and conservatively let's say I gain 7 mph. Convert my drives to dry sumps, change to swept back lowers, and better props. How about another 7 mph. Increase the horsepower the other 150 to get up to the 1075's maybe that's another 3 mph. If my math is right that's 17 mph. On top of the 107 we have run (never mind the I think it will run 110) that's 124 mph for a 1992, straight bottom resin bucket, as Shaun likes to call our Sutphen's. That's not too bad!
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Originally Posted by 47EXCALIBUR
You need to change yours to "30 Sutphen (for sale), 34 Sutphen Outrageous"
done
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Old 01-08-2015, 12:08 PM
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For the record my arguments were strictly geared towards comparing stepped top guns to non stepped top guns. Many are tossing out other makes and models...as I said maybe there step technology is more efficient than cigarettes. That wouldn't surprise me...
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Old 01-08-2015, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by benjen
I see this thread has been "hijacked again". I guess I am supposed to say something at this point. So here goes. Since I'm not about to spend another $75-$100,000 on a 92 boat that like most of us I have way too much money into already. This is purely speculation mind you. But........I read on here, I would think, where Reggie said a full stagger depending upon the boat was good for 10-15 mph. If I were to stagger the Sutphen and conservatively let's say I gain 7 mph. Convert my drives to dry sumps, change to swept back lowers, and better props. How about another 7 mph. Increase the horsepower the other 150 to get up to the 1075's maybe that's another 3 mph. If my math is right that's 17 mph. On top of the 107 we have run (never mind the I think it will run 110) that's 124 mph for a 1992, straight bottom resin bucket, as Shaun likes to call our Sutphen's. That's not too bad!
If i was you all i would do is raise your drives and get new props. Your x dimension was set at a time when props were not that great so the drives are to low. the difference between wet and dry 6's is about 40-50 hp so its realy not worth the cost.
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