Indmar Honored For ROUSH-Charged Raptor 575 Engine
 

Congratulations to Indmar. Lots of potential here, http://speedonthewater.com/new-boats...tor-575-engine

Saw this engine in Chicago in January. It is an amazing piece!

It's great to see that we may have a few companies bringing new products to the market with Indmar and Illmor to challenge Mercury. Hopefully this will create a good amount of competition which can only benefit us as the consumer.

Thats the engine merc should have made instead of a 1550 racegas switch flipper

I have mentioned indmars programs a few times in the last few months....god warranties and reasonable prices too...

Do they also have a drive package?

Ford HO marine nice!

Indmars focus has been the inboard market, wake boats etc so no outdrives.

The bigger-picture story in this, which I touched on briefly, is that Ford is getting back into the marine engine game. I interviewed two representatives from ROUSH at the show at length and I'll have a story based on those interviews (plus an interview with an Indmar rep), next week.

Thanks. That's what I thought, I know in the article it stated they were working on deals with a couple manufacturers to get into the sport boat market. It would be nice to see them come out with there own drive like Illmor and maybe put some pressure on merc.

All three gentlemen I spoke with told me that while, yes, the 575 Raptor was developed for the inboard towboat market they are interested in getting it into the high-performance segment. They could not show me pricing, but the did say the 575 will have a significantly lower cost than existing powerplants in the go-fast segment at the same power level.

That's great to hear. Now the question is will they be able either build a drive or pair it with one on the market and still keep the cost down. Thanks Matt for all you do to keep us informed.

Frice wise, I dint know about the ford, but they also do the LS platform, 572hp supercharged is mid teens with a 3 year warranty

Paired with an Arneson package this would make a nice marriage.

so is it roush getting involved or is it the whole ford motor company? and how much is ford going to put into the marine game, are they going all out or going to have a few engines here and there.

I would love to see a pair of these mated to some Arneson's in a 30 Skater.

Indmar is not looking back as Ford is the pathway for them. The have tested these Raptor engines and have one with 2000 hours on it and still testing it in Florida. They like them and proclaim they are bullet proof. They even did drag comparisons against the LSA GM engine and the raptor smokes it in their wakeboard apps for pulling power and acceleration. Top speed is not Indmar segment period. They have been thinking about other areas of the marine market to match up their engines. So far nothing but the wakboard market.

The next market for them might be the jetboat market like what you see in the NW as Indmar / Barr is moving engines up in a new facility of the USA (NW). Indmar / Barr have taken over a huge warehouse to supply engines in that area that was once held by another Marine engine manufacturer. Look for possible Jetboats with their engines in the NW coming but not 100 %, its all up in the air at this point. You heard it first right here. They Imdmar is growing bigger everyday

Indmar worked with Ford and Roush Racing to bring forth the new Raptor line of marine engines.

I've been contemplating having a 30' cat built with a pair of the non supercharged 440 motors for the past couple of months. I gotta say I really like the Ford 6.2, just trying to figure out which drives would match best and how bad insurance is going to rake me over the coals......gotta admit though it'd be nice to be the only person on the water with that setup.

Really well said.

They're already in jet boats, and more going in every day. The pricing is very attractive right now too.

is everyone disappointed with mercury's lack of progression or are their lack of competition giving now competition on their prices? just wondering what the reason is for a new good competition

Competition is good in any industry. These motors also have 5 year warranties. I'd guess the supercharged motor should compete speed wise with the Ilmor MV8. Both small blocks with similar power. I'd also think the supercharged motor might have a little more torque. I'd like to see a test with a pair of the Indmar 575's, Ilmor MV8-570's, and Merc 565's in the same hull. It would be interesting to see which performs better all around and on the top end.

I understand they BARR sister company of Indmar has GM LS in jet boats across the USA especially in NW and Canada, They are in the process (Indmar) for shipping engine packages to a new facilty in the NW that a OEM competitor had and lost it. Plus they Indmar are shipping their new Ford engine packages as well to the NW.

Many of the power packages that say Indmar on the hood are sold thru their sister company Barr Marine. Indmar themselves only deal basically with majority wakeboard boat manufacturers so far. Barr Marine deals with the rest of the smaller boat builders for a couple of motors here and their. Indmar really will not sell you one engine - they will send you over to Barr marine especially for repowers and one off boats.

I have not seen an Indmar FORD RAPTOR in other boats than the current wakeboard boats mainly Malibu wakeboard boats. Indmar just got their service training set up 3 weeks ago for their Ford Raptor engine packages as I know this because us Indmar techs have been waiting for it.

I'll send ya some pics. I tried to use a 400 for a repower about a month ago, but it was too long for the engine compartment with the way the coolers are mounted. I just spec'd a pump for a new boat build with a 575 last night. there's several other new boats being buit with them right now, and a few already on the water.

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I guess they started in with Ford already for the jetboat, send me the pics and I will ask them. I Know a truck load of Fords already went up to the NW. I wonder if it is the testing stage for these apps as a partnership with Indmar and the jetboat manu to see how well they do..

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Not a Canadian thing, they're being used in the US too. The boat I helped with the pump selection on last night is in Colorado. The owner of the company has one in his boat too. They don't need a transmission either. If someone wants to have one converted for a stern drive, it would not be that difficult.

Well for some reason I forgot all about this and we talked about it. So I will add, Indmar does have other apps that their Ford Raptor is going into very currently. This is current of 2015.

For one they have an all painted white Ford Raptor engine packages for inboard boats and then they have the same 400, 440 and the 575 SC for other apps like the Jetboats and Inboards. This line is Called Indmar Raptor Gemini Series. I forgot they gave me this brochure to read. I just pulled it out

a good read

http://www.alliancewake.com/wake/ind...nal-boat-show/

Personally, I think merc got microsoft syndrome. big, market dominant then got complacent and lazy To the average user, windows 7 really does nothing different that windows 95 or 98 annd anyone using windows 8 on a reg pc or laptop finds it an irritating worthless pile of crap. Then- microsloth had apple destroyed, sitting on deaths door. Now-Apple is ready to take over the world and microsoft cant seem to do anything right.


Sure the 1350 and variants seems like a sweet motor, but all we hear about them is whispers and rumors of them living in gaurdian mode. and when you think about it, just how big is the market for them? merc was the GM, Ford and Chrysler of the boat world combined, Merc power was STANDARD. How manyof the new breed of boats, all the wake boats, ow riders and mini cruisers would be happy running a nice merc 350 to 500 hp deoendable efficient small block?? There is your bread and butter markert to support the niche big power stuff. Instead we have how many differnt versions of a 5 to 600 hp bbc.

Here's a story from the home page of OSO you guys may have missed, http://www.offshoreonly.com/articles...rnative-energy. (I know a lot of people don't even know OSO has a home page) with a little more detail.

I have already fielded a phone call from a boat builder about the possibility of doing a project with the Indmar ROUSH 575 Raptor engine. (The builder wants to remain nameless until/unless the project happens.) Obvioulsy, Indmar can adjust the tuning and horespower/torque outputs for the application. The current version of the engine is set up for towboats, and that means big torque in the low end of the engine's operating range.

I don't see this as an "anti-Mercury" story, not in the least. Being a diehard capitalist, I believe in choices for consumers. On any number of levels, choice is a good thing.

I think what has happened here as of late - a lot of segments of marine boat builders has hit up Indmar for them to start rethinking selling the Ford Raptor engine packages to a broader application buyer. I do know about the engines somewhat but have not had any service training on them. This up front might make someone rethink about not installing them for the fear of yes we can install them but we are still getting more in depth trained on them. I am not saying this a negative way as I know Indmar has tested these to no end but as with any product easy to sell but if you can not fix it properly in a proper amount of time, it can hurt the overall product.

There is no cool fuel system nor external mounted electric fuel pump(s) designed into these engines as of yet, the reason is Indmar leaves it up to the boat builder to install all fuel pumps in the gas tank for the fueling system.

There is 2 spark plugs per cylinder. Indmar has lowered the torque curve rpms for these engines as they call it TCP = torque centric performance - this means that higher torque and HP is at lower rpm ranges 2500 thru 3500 rpms. They claim more where you need it for the towboat owner to experience faster acceleration, faster planning, reduce internal wear and better fuel economy.

All apps are closed cooled, a couple of other ECM monitoring systems that this package offers is water flow monitoring, cylinder head temp, fuel pressure and 02 wide band among other system monitoring.

FYI - Illmor marine for their LS base engine packages will be offering Yanmar outdrives / transom assemblies. These outdrives from Yanmar are twin props offerings. Illmor is trying to extend their market share as well.

I think JWAY pointed out your solution