Not looking to start argument but my 27 is on rails in flat or ruff water . As in most boats its all in the set up

These were both 28's. Flat water in them sucks. Starts getting choppy and it's like your on glass. When they really start going airborne that's when they run the best. My 27 Donzi has a similar ride. It does not like flat water at all. More prone to porpoise and chine walk when it's flat start getting into bigger water and it straightens right out.

[QUOTE=Black Baja;4270923]These were both 28's. Flat water in them sucks. Starts getting choppy and it's like your on glass. When they really start going airborne that's when they run the best. My 27 Donzi has a similar ride. It does not like flat water at all. More prone to porpoise and chine walk when it's flat start getting into bigger water and it straightens right out.[/QUOTE We have 6 activators in our crew .I can install a prop on everyone and make it ill handle .Sounds like you need to play with drive height and rake angle and diameter on your props

Donzi 27 ZR, Fountain 29. Gut the cabin if speed is your only concern.

Be like Superman, 29' Kryptonite..

Kunkels Marine has (2) Checkmate 300's for sale right now according to there website. The blue and white boat is set-up to run 120. Looks like it can be bought with or without power.

http://www.kunkelsmarine.com/2004-ch...convincor-300/

Yes, would like to see more pics of your boat. Can you tell me how it handles the power at speed and also docking control with only one engine? Thanks! T

My experience on a 27 and 30 Activator is in the 80 to 90 MPH range. No ill handling on flat water just slower on top end. Never seen a chine walk or porpoise at these speeds in any water. Maybe a different deal over 100.

29' Kryptonite

Ummmm.. kryptonite was supermans weakness.........

LOL, kryptonite is a nice one also and is added to my list! Thanks!

Give Mark at RAGE Powerboats a call.

30 superboat y2k w eat the rough stuff up

It looks to me from the pics that some boats appear smaller than advertised. Makes me wonder how some of these boats would compare size wise to each other: 30 activator/rage, 29 kryptonite, Y2K 30 or a checkmate 30'. I would prefer the larger/taller end of the scale, 29, 30+.... All of these are really high in my book. I thought I was going to have a tough time finding a higher speed, stable single platform but clearly I won't. Thanks guys!

The new 28 Rage has more room than the 30 and a ton more than the 27. With 750hp the 28 will go 97mph

You need a Velocity. It will do what you want. Fast, stable and a deep cockpit.

Padraig

Check300's boat was an effing animal, PERIOD.

Yes, I'm finding that out!!

There's not premium on Arneosns that I've ever heard of... Don't know where that came from.

The Kryptonite is a total sit down boat but runs with the big boys through the chop. I had no problem running 70+ through some of the nastiest chop out there and in poker runs quite often was the only sub 30+' boat first to the card stops. I had 550hp in mine and ran a solid low to mid 80's all day.

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Why? Even stripping the cabins to the stringers/bulkheads you might get 1-2 mph? Now you have a boat nobody wants to buy (raceboats are even lighter, built stronger and usually can be bought cheaper anyway) and you now have a boat nobody wants to go out on (cabin is fiberglass splinter heaven).

Great looking boat!

Dave what is the speed difference between the 600 and 710

We're in the looking stages of new boat shopping right now & I'm hoping to have one on order by this time next year. I'm getting it narrowed down and called my agent.

She said "Get what you want, you're insurable; if you have your heart set on Arnesons it's not that much more".

So I'm understanding that as there being a premium - however slight - for a hull equipped with Arneson(s).

They insure hi-po stuff so I'm assuming she knows what she's talking about.

Tracy,

I know you said you wanted a bigger boat, but looking is at least half the fun and the 24 Schiada is a "real" 24 i.e. no molded platform or long nose (that was NOT a shot at the Fountains).

Had this boat been priced where it is now I'd probably have bought it instead of the one I did buy.

They're heavy, build quality is nothing short of amazing, and generally the guys who have them take very good care of them.

http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forum...-turbo-Schiada

Apologies if it's a party foul to post a link to another boating forum

First I've ever heard of this... There's no basis for a higher insurance premium though... ? They will charge you any way they can is how I see it.

I'll be talking to her next week, I'll ask for some clarification, but I'm thinking your analysis is probably accurate…"because they can" is justification enough for them.

Insurance certainly doesn't have to make sense. We have a Malibu ski boat with an LS3. The first couple insurance agents wigged because their "professional calculations" (more correctly precision guesswork) said it was a 70 mph boat.

They lessen draft so risk of underwater collision / damage to the drive is less than an outdrive, correct?

From what I understand the cost basis is roughly equivalent to a stern drive so that shouldn't be an issue.

They might be factoring the replacement cost of the prop(s) in case of theft? Or possibly a bit more liability from a risk of injury standpoint due to the location of the drives ?

Or, it could simply be that boats with Arneson's go faster or appeal to a certain "type" of owner. I remember years ago Ford made a 2 seat version of the Escort called an EXP. It certainly wasn't a "sports car" but because it was a 2-seater insurance rates tended to be inflated and contributed to Ford's decision to halt production.

I'll post what I find out.

For variety, I'd offer up the 28 Pantera as an option. Very solid hull, a big boat (really a '30' they way they measure things these days), can probably take any power you throw at it, can likely be found in your budget.

2 things:

1st -

A) I don't know anything about them, but I've heard some interesting things about Banana Boat Co. & they certainly look old school cool.
B) I think they're more of a rough water boat then you're after but Saber Marine in Gr Rapids, MI has - I think - some pretty cool stuff that looks well built.
C) Cant leave LaveyCraft out of the west coast mix. They've been around forever, racing heritage, and their stuff is supposed to be put together well.

2nd -

I don't mean to hi-jack this thread & this would make a great post all by itself, but look at all the suggestions; modern construction combined with engine and drive technology yields some pretty damn impressive performance. I think we've had 18 different manufacturers listed ? maybe 20 ?

The "good 'ole days" of performance boating are right now...

Yes on Pantera too! I agree with Slippery... I thought I was going to have a very limited market on what I'm looking for.... NOT! Lots of killer, very capable boats that my hot wife will look great in AND i'll be able to have a beast of a boat to boot, lol! :flag::flag: Now the hard part will be waiting for my house to be built before I can buy something, lol!!!

Docking is easy and at speed no issues at all. The propshaft is 1" or so below the bottom which helps this. Locked up the six drive over 80 once (bearing then gear failure), the guys with me asked why did you slow down? I just knew it had no more forward drive, broke the input shaft in the transmission but the drive stayed locked up. Even with the prop locked, it just slowed down, no torque reaction at all. I was pleasantly surprised.
There are only five of these 32 Stealths ever built so you probably will not find one for sale and I have the only one with a 'cabin'. The new 30 is faster anyway. I wanted a boat that can cruise at 90 and not really care how rough the water is (within reason of course).

^^^^Great looking boat!! Thanks