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Matt Trulio 03-09-2015 02:04 PM

Mercury Bolsters Outboard 'Repower Revolution' With Aggressive Financing Program
 
Worth a look for outboard engine fans—and a good sign for the industry, http://speedonthewater.com/in-the-ne...ng-program-1-2

pstorti 03-09-2015 02:55 PM

how is 5% interest "aggressive" ????

Matt Trulio 03-09-2015 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by pstorti (Post 4276111)
how is 5% interest "aggressive" ????

Would you prefer "solid," Paul? What should it be to qualify as "aggressive?" Perspective is a funny thing. When I bought my first home, anything below 15 percent on a mortgage was considered excellent from a historical point of view on interest rates. Have you looked at the interest rate on your credit cards lately?

Had the program offered just the interest rate an no other incentive, however, I would not have called it "aggressive." But that's not the case.

So yes, given the deferment of payment or rebate option, plus 4.99 percent interest, I consider it an aggressive finance program. Clearly, you do not, which happens often among smart friends with differing perspectives.

pstorti 03-09-2015 03:38 PM

I saw the headline and expected 2% financing or something big, like when the economy was in the crapper and GM offered 0%, that's aggressive! Being as you can get a HELOC for 4% or less and deduct the interest from your income, who would bother paying Mercury 5%? I never understood that deferred for 90 days payments, what is the benefit? You still have to pay.

Honestly if you have to finance to repower you probably shouldn't be doing it anyway. :)

Matt are you guys planning to do a full test of the Cigarette 1040SD? Curious to see actual performance numbers and fuel burn. Supposedly they also have a few being built with Mercury (Volkswagen) 370HP diesels. I think that will be my next boat if they depreciate enough in 3 years so I can pay cash for one.

Matt Trulio 03-09-2015 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by pstorti (Post 4276137)
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Matt are you guys planning to do a full test of the Cigarette 1040SD? Curious to see actual performance numbers and fuel burn. Supposedly they also have a few being built with Mercury (Volkswagen) 370HP diesels. I think that will be my next boat if they depreciate enough in 3 years so I can pay cash for one.

We don't have anything currently in the works with that one, Paul, but that sounds really cool with diesel power. I'd love to see that.

Jupiter Sunsation 03-09-2015 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by pstorti (Post 4276111)
how is 5% interest "aggressive" ????

5% financing on "boat parts" is aggressive.......it would be really interesting if they carried that over to I/O stuff....150K motor/drive packages vs. 15-20K outboards.

underpsi68 03-09-2015 08:36 PM

Aggressive would be buy one get one free!

precisiondetails 03-09-2015 09:00 PM

Interesting and yes it would be something to see if they were to do this with the IO packages as well.

Pete280 03-09-2015 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by pstorti (Post 4276137)
I saw the headline and expected 2% financing or something big, like when the economy was in the crapper and GM offered 0%, that's aggressive! Being as you can get a HELOC for 4% or less and deduct the interest from your income, who would bother paying Mercury 5%? I never understood that deferred for 90 days payments, what is the benefit? You still have to pay.

Honestly if you have to finance to repower you probably shouldn't be doing it anyway. :)

Matt are you guys planning to do a full test of the Cigarette 1040SD? Curious to see actual performance numbers and fuel burn. Supposedly they also have a few being built with Mercury (Volkswagen) 370HP diesels. I think that will be my next boat if they depreciate enough in 3 years so I can pay cash for one.

Have to disagree a little, I paid cash for my boat but may have to partially finance a re-power someday, what's the difference if I owe $20-30K on my motors OR $20-30K on my boat? I could also kinda justify a monthly payment with the offset from fuel savings, going from EFI 2 strokes to Optis.

Now I just have to convince my wife we need new motors before a bigger house.

hogie roll 03-09-2015 09:55 PM

Sounds interesting. I shouldn't ask but I wonder how long is the term, what's the purchase price and what can I trade in 07 Suzuki df250s for? If I could do 70 i could show transom to some of those "real" offshore boats :D

nofastboat 03-09-2015 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by pstorti (Post 4276137)
I saw the headline and expected 2% financing or something big, like when the economy was in the crapper and GM offered 0%, that's aggressive! Being as you can get a HELOC for 4% or less and deduct the interest from your income, who would bother paying Mercury 5%? I never understood that deferred for 90 days payments, what is the benefit? You still have to pay.

Honestly if you have to finance to repower you probably shouldn't be doing it anyway. :)
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I had set up financing with many customers who had good to below poor credit scores. the economy hit some people harder than others, some of which are now back on their feet doing well but their credit suffered through the tough times. People with good credit were happy with 4.7% financing. ones with less were happy with around 7%. Mercury is offering a system with a good percentage and a nice rebate (like Matt said) which is more for Mercury to bring to the table. And the the advantage to 90 days deferred is that you can put a larger down payment to bring down monthly payment, and have time to recover your bank account before having to start shoveling out again. And someone may not be doing as well as they were prior to the recession so they could be in a situation where they need to repower and don't have the cash to put up front. Things like this are making it possible for many different people to stay on the water. Thats the goal.

drejustice 03-10-2015 08:43 AM

While an "ok" start to a program, I'd think it would fit our performance boater segment better if it included the 400r and 300xs motors in the program.

pstorti 03-10-2015 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by nofastboat (Post 4276360)
... And the the advantage to 90 days deferred is that you can put a larger down payment to bring down monthly payment, and have time to recover your bank account before having to start shoveling out again.

You make my point, if you need to empty your bank account and finance the motors you shouldn't be doing it. Period.

You should have 6 months reserve at least, probably even more as a boater with the extra monthly expenses a boat creates.

Pete280 03-10-2015 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by pstorti (Post 4276805)
You make my point, if you need to empty your bank account and finance the motors you shouldn't be doing it. Period.

You should have 6 months reserve at least, probably even more as a boater with the extra monthly expenses a boat creates.

OK Susie Orrmond, I do have a problem keeping 24K in my savings account but I have almost no debt besides my house so I am very comfortable IF I took on a loan for motors. And my motors run great so hopefully this is amoot point.

nofastboat 03-10-2015 10:34 PM

Financing is better for some people. Cash is king. Yes. However this could keep some cool older boats out on the water for people that can't drop 15-30k

onesickpantera 03-11-2015 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4276194)
5% financing on "boat parts" is aggressive.......it would be really interesting if they carried that over to I/O stuff....150K motor/drive packages vs. 15-20K outboards.

I agree 100%. You can't compare financing a boat engine to your home or auto. The fact that they offer financing at all is impressive. This is all about marketing, and offering financing is a great way for them to sell more expensive engines.

bulletbob 03-11-2015 01:31 PM

I have a 1989 hull and 1998 and 99 outboard motors all paided for with CASH because thats' what I could afford and maintain without much skilled support. Screw financing anything but a home.I am saving and investing for retirement.Financing outboards..........silly......flame away

Speedracer29 03-11-2015 02:49 PM

When financing boats and homes, always make the boat payment first when money gets tight. You can sleep on your boat, but you can't take your house to the sandbar.

Pete280 03-11-2015 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by bulletbob (Post 4277246)
I have a 1989 hull and 1998 and 99 outboard motors all paided for with CASH because thats' what I could afford and maintain without much skilled support. Screw financing anything but a home.I am saving and investing for retirement.Financing outboards..........silly......flame away

100% agree, I've been plowing money into my 401K for 18 yrs, my company has also never missed a profit sharing so retirement is all set in 20 yrs. i have no HELOC, No credit cards, no boat loan, a small auto loan under 10K, therefore IF I financed a pair of OB's I would be fine with it.

nofastboat 03-11-2015 09:17 PM

some people's financial positions are different than others. not everything is perfect for everyone. some people on here think it is their way or the high way and you're going to go broke if you don't go by their rules. You are not financing your house so 2% is not quite a percentage for a boat. Its a lot more of a risk to the bank. It is the first luxury to go, and the boat can be difficult to repossess. I think this is a pretty good opportunity.


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