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boatnt 02-06-2016 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by jwurl (Post 4400842)
Just to make things clear when I am referring to size I am talking about USABLE SPACE not the length of the boat . Jeff Wurl

yes the cock pit is tighter on the Fountain, but you will get 5 people in either boat,

Monaco20 02-07-2016 05:36 AM

Hi

Back to the topic, I found this test a while back

A full test of the major boats 26 - 28 feet singel engine

Enjoy

https://books.google.no/books?id=Z-v...20test&f=false

Wharf Rat 1 02-07-2016 07:20 AM

Hey thanks Manaco20!

rak rua 02-07-2016 08:01 AM

Interesting read Monaco, thanks.

I know it's only one man's review but the speed test surprised me. The Velocity is significantly lighter than the rest and with a non-stepped hull, it was more than 10 mph ahead of the others. It did have a labbed prop but it seems reducing weight is far more important than steps if you're chasing top end speed. Hope the lighter weight doesn't compromise strength?

RR

boatnt 02-07-2016 08:48 AM

Friend had a 260 Velocity,fast boat compared to another brand with same power,but you knew you were in a light boat,especially while going fast with a light chop.

Monaco20 02-07-2016 09:37 AM

The worst enemi of speed is weight, is a statement :-)

I have heard that the stepped hull on the 271 Fastech, does not have mouch innpact before you Reach 70 mph, compaered with the Sr1 hull (non stepped)

If this is correct I do not know... :-)

What I read from the test, Fromula was rated as the best allround opption :-)

Monaco20 02-07-2016 09:46 AM

Hi guys

This is the SR1 hull, but it shows that you can get speed out of a 271, when you add som hp and know what you are doing

https://books.google.no/books?id=R0P...epage&q&f=true

racinfast002 02-08-2016 03:59 PM

For what its worth, I had a 271 fastech. It was an awesome single engine boat. My biggest thing was I overnight a lot and wanted a pump out head, which the formula has. Not many single engine boats with a pump out.

racinfast002 02-08-2016 04:00 PM

Also for what its worth, I HAD a 271 Fastech and recently purchased a 312 Fastech.......A lot of Formula owners buy the same brand again, so that should tell you something. Yes there are faster boats on the market, but for the price point, the fit and finish of them are awesome.

Monaco20 02-08-2016 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by racinfast002 (Post 4401805)
Also for what its worth, I HAD a 271 Fastech and recently purchased a 312 Fastech.......A lot of Formula owners buy the same brand again, so that should tell you something. Yes there are faster boats on the market, but for the price point, the fit and finish of them are awesome.

Some power you got in that 312 :-) what's the numbers ?
What do you think is the main difference between the 271 and the 312 ? In your case of course speed is a big difference ;-)

1989mach1 02-08-2016 05:33 PM

From a 27 to a 31 size is a big difference and with that th cabin is much bigger. I looked at the 31 when searching and was really roomy compared to my old 27. Just the 27 was not a formula but was comparable.

racinfast002 02-09-2016 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by Monaco20 (Post 4401822)
Some power you got in that 312 :-) what's the numbers ?
What do you think is the main difference between the 271 and the 312 ? In your case of course speed is a big difference ;-)

The 312 has MUCH more room on deck. I felt like my 271 was always tight with 4 adults on deck. The 312 is much better. In the cabin you gain longer benches, more storage space, and a fridge. The bed and all other things are the same. Another thing you get with the 312 is an anchor locker, which on the 271 I always kept in a rubbermaid under the passenger bolster. It was pretty annoying lifting it over the windshield time and time again.

With the ponies mine has it will run upper 80s all day long. Goal this year is to touch 90 in it, which I think is doable. Its a pretty sketchy ride over 80, tends to chine walk.

racinfast002 02-09-2016 08:42 AM

And just for fun....turn up the volume for this one.

https://www.facebook.com/20748284604...2173256911748/

Monaco20 02-09-2016 03:31 PM

Nice ride awesome sound :-)

Have you seen this one, seams stabile and fast 700 + pr side :-)

http://youtu.be/OuG6A6T5zJs

1MOSES1 02-09-2016 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Monaco20 (Post 4402120)
Nice ride awesome sound :-)

Have you seen this one, seams stabile and fast 700 + pr side :-)

http://youtu.be/OuG6A6T5zJs

Fast lake boat!!!

Monaco20 02-16-2016 03:46 PM

Weight seams to be the main issue when it comes to any speed specially on water ;-)

From this test the lighter Velocity non stepped hull is by far ahead, then you have the Eliminator number 2 Fountain as a good number 3 even though its more heavy then the non stepped Baja at number 4. The Formula by far the most heavy boat 5685 pounds its almost 1600 pounds heavier the the Velocity (and the slowest boat with 400 + hp) in this test

Still the winner he he The Complete Package :-)






Originally Posted by rak rua (Post 4401326)
Interesting read Monaco, thanks.

I know it's only one man's review but the speed test surprised me. The Velocity is significantly lighter than the rest and with a non-stepped hull, it was more than 10 mph ahead of the others. It did have a labbed prop but it seems reducing weight is far more important than steps if you're chasing top end speed. Hope the lighter weight doesn't compromise strength?

RR


racinfast002 02-17-2016 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by Monaco20 (Post 4404792)
Weight seams to be the main issue when it comes to any speed specially on water ;-)

From this test the lighter Velocity non stepped hull is by far ahead, then you have the Eliminator number 2 Fountain as a good number 3 even though its more heavy then the non stepped Baja at number 4. The Formula by far the most heavy boat 5685 pounds its almost 1600 pounds heavier the the Velocity (and the slowest boat with 400 + hp) in this test

Still the winner he he The Complete Package :-)

There is a reason the fastech is the "slow go fast boat" Its a heavy lay up. My power in a 32 fever would run well into the triple digits. However, the amenities of the Formula is why I have owned 2 now. I like the way they are built, and feel really solid. I have seen plenty of them with 600, 700, 800 hours that still look awesome without a refresh (were talking hull, interior ect not motors). I think they will hold up well.

Monaco20 02-17-2016 03:46 PM

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The 271 is my second Formula, and I agree that it is a good and solid boat :-)

I would not call it slow but there are many other boats that are faster. The 26 Donzi 5000 pounds 22 degrees deadrise was only 1,1 mph faster (10 hp less)

If we want to keep up with them, we can always buy a bigger engine ;-)

Anyway most Formula owners are happy with their boats :-)

I believe there are new and more modern ways to build even stronger and lighter boats in 2016, then again weight has an advantage in the rough ;-)






Originally Posted by racinfast002 (Post 4405080)
There is a reason the fastech is the "slow go fast boat" Its a heavy lay up. My power in a 32 fever would run well into the triple digits. However, the amenities of the Formula is why I have owned 2 now. I like the way they are built, and feel really solid. I have seen plenty of them with 600, 700, 800 hours that still look awesome without a refresh (were talking hull, interior ect not motors). I think they will hold up well.


Monaco20 02-17-2016 04:33 PM

Hi Warf have you decided which boat to choose yet ??

Wharf Rat 1 02-17-2016 07:04 PM

I currently own a Formula. May want to up the size. Have not decided if I'm going to. I like the look Of the Fountain 27fever. I feel it is a good entry level boat into High Performance boats, but without the added cost of twins. I did not hear great things about it as I hoped I would have. I don't know. Jury still out. Thanks for all the feedback!!!

moderatedUser23082018 02-17-2016 07:09 PM

I love my 27 fever and had a 32 with twins. As someone said above,, 29 with a single is the ticket. My cabin is just a storage bin but appreciate the small size to tow with my 1/2 ton truck. Twins are sweet but too much to deal with for a few miles per hour. Good Luck.

jtbooten 02-17-2016 08:31 PM

Love my 27' Fountain. I had a 29' prior to this and yes it handled a lot better. Both have close to the same power and the 29' took a lot longer to plan. 2' IMO made a big difference in docking. 27' is a tad lighter to pull (you may have mentioned what your tow vehicle is earlier but I haven't read every post). If you have a 1500, the 27 will push its limit but is still doable. Pros and cons to both. Not sure if I would go back to the 29 if I had the chance (my 27' is newer and few more nice accessories may be the reason though). Can't comment on the other boats so my advise is one sided. I don't think you would be disappointed with a 27 Fountain.

Monaco20 02-20-2016 03:17 AM

Here you are, Formula 271 seems to be in exelent condition with a "new engine"
Get the right price, and you will be a happy boat owner :-)

Monaco20 02-20-2016 03:20 AM

Sorry
http://m.powerboatlistings.com/view/37179

Monaco20 02-20-2016 03:27 AM

This one is older with more power and 70 mph + :-) :-)

http://m.powerboatlistings.com/photo...10327#Mine.jpg

jwurl 02-21-2016 07:52 PM

I would sell my mint condition 271 Fastech with a 713hp Hp Holley EFI motor on a Myco trailer for 45K and it also has XR drive,HP gimbal,Full Imco hydraulic steering and Merc 280 tabs,pop-up mechanical indicators,monster gauges, and huge list of custom parts . Everything has less than 20 hours on it. 80+ mph full of fuel and passengers. Jeff Wurl

Kent 12-08-2016 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by jwurl (Post 4400580)
I was in the same situation . I limited myself to a Fountain or Formula 27. I found a dealer that had both side by side and compared . The Formula is a much larger boat. The outside cockpit size of a 27 Fountain is ridiculously small. If you have any size to you, getting behind the wheel is tight. A 27 fountain was out of the question. The Formula 271 is equal to the size of a 29 Fountain actually may be slightly larger. If you are actually going to use your boat get the Formula or 29 Fountain. A big plus for the Formula is that the only thing that is wood in the boat is the transom. Fountain is all wood construction. A fountain is roughly 3-4 miles per hour faster with the same power. Not a big deal. I don't know what you are looking to spend but I am thinking of selling my Formula Fastech 27. It is a true 85mph boat full of fuel and passengers (715hp). Boat is beyond mint condition with a bunch of custom stuff. Send me a PM if interested. Jeff Wurl

Hi Jeff is this boat still available for sale?

mcprodesign 12-08-2016 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by easyrider1340 (Post 4400059)
The 29' Fountain with 525 is a great boat - and likely fastest and most efficient in it's class.

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