Go Back  Offshoreonly.com > General Discussion > General Boating Discussion
Start to Finish: Building Our 50' Skater >

Start to Finish: Building Our 50' Skater

Notices

Start to Finish: Building Our 50' Skater

Thread Tools
 
Old 04-20-2018, 12:30 AM
  #1721  
Registered
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: LBC, OH
Posts: 1,377
Received 916 Likes on 304 Posts
Default

When trying to install or remove a bearing race from a steel shaft, do you heat the shaft, or the bearing race? That's how I remember this physics answer..
kidturbo is offline  
Old 04-20-2018, 06:51 AM
  #1722  
SORE MEMBER
Platinum Member
 
Wobble's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: 29°50'49.74"N 95° 5'17.55"W.......TEXAS
Posts: 6,989
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I was reading the other day that a formula 1 engine when cold is actually cold seized. They have to bring the fluids up to operating temp long enough to heat the block.before starting the engine or ICE as they now call them.
Wobble is offline  
Old 04-20-2018, 07:13 AM
  #1723  
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Salisbury N.C.
Posts: 487
Received 23 Likes on 17 Posts
Default

We call that Cold Seizure , We would Ice the cooling system down with a Circulator Unit for Qualifing so we could tape up the Nose on the car , then heat the oil to about 300* .
The Purpose Built Qualifing Engines would do this at a Superspeedway , because we ran the piston to wall clearance so tight. After napcar banned qualifing engines we had to open up the piston to wall to prevent it.
I know on a Diesel that the Cylinder Pressure and Temps are way higher than a gas burner. You may have to open up the Clearance some more . I think the water recirculation is a must.
dunnitagain is offline  
Old 04-20-2018, 11:11 AM
  #1724  
Registered
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: LBC, OH
Posts: 1,377
Received 916 Likes on 304 Posts
Default

Tysons first piston example with 1&2 damaged would certainly fit a cold seizure if water is entering front of the block as normal C layout. The second one with 1&5 kinda has me wondering. #5 doesn't fit that same train of thought, and must have been a bit tighter in bore at start up.

When I was exploring forged piston options for my Dmax build back in 2010, we were talking overbore dimensions on 7 & 8 due to turbo position in the valley. Thay had noted the pistons at the rear were known to swell more than block due to radiant heating. At that time there wasn't options to include oil cooling passages inside a forged piston design. So I opted to stay with cast specifically for that reason. Latest build, using same cast pistons with modified bowl, and ring gaps you can read a book through. All the math says they should be happiest WOT around 200-215F ECT. But once again, it's all R&D when pushing these power levels in small cube marine diesels.
kidturbo is offline  
Old 04-20-2018, 04:24 PM
  #1725  
SORE MEMBER
Platinum Member
 
Wobble's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: 29°50'49.74"N 95° 5'17.55"W.......TEXAS
Posts: 6,989
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by kidturbo
Tysons first piston example with 1&2 damaged would certainly fit a cold seizure if water is entering front of the block as normal C layout. The second one with 1&5 kinda has me wondering. #5 doesn't fit that same train of thought, and must have been a bit tighter in bore at start up.

When I was exploring forged piston options for my Dmax build back in 2010, we were talking overbore dimensions on 7 & 8 due to turbo position in the valley. Thay had noted the pistons at the rear were known to swell more than block due to radiant heating. At that time there wasn't options to include oil cooling passages inside a forged piston design. So I opted to stay with cast specifically for that reason. Latest build, using same cast pistons with modified bowl, and ring gaps you can read a book through. All the math says they should be happiest WOT around 200-215F ECT. But once again, it's all R&D when pushing these power levels in small cube marine diesels.
I'm thinking you would want as many constants as possible especially in an r&d enviroment, coolant and oil temps are both items that can be artificially raised to temp then maintained.
Wobble is offline  
Old 05-07-2018, 08:21 AM
  #1726  
Registered
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 666
Received 16 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Any updates?
Tborisch is offline  
Old 06-01-2018, 10:28 AM
  #1727  
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 239
Received 21 Likes on 15 Posts
Default

over a month and no updates.

whats the status Tyson?
SKammeraad is offline  
Old 06-01-2018, 08:39 PM
  #1728  
Registered
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Fenelon Falls, ON
Posts: 110
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Tyson, where can I buy the retractable quarter snaps?
thank you.
StewLow is offline  
Old 06-02-2018, 06:17 AM
  #1729  
Registered
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Pompano Beach, FL
Posts: 2,054
Received 12 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Send him a private messagel. His company makes them. I have them on my boat and they are awesome.
Highly recommend them and they cover existing holes of common ones that stick up. You will need about an 1 1/2” or behind the area where you mount them.
Has black, chrome and I think polished aluminum.
Double Rigged is offline  
Old 06-03-2018, 07:32 PM
  #1730  
Registered
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 78
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Beautiful
Romeomikehotel is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.