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hotrodford 06-13-2016 08:49 AM

OK I mentioned gore , not that it matters , all you hard core believers gonna install this marvelous fabulous exhaust filters great technology on your boat motors ? also pipe EGR exhaust gases into intake , pipe crank gas into intake great idea , NOT AT ALL,, lil secret it is a real screwy idea on diesels ,, love to see that as proof pics , Tech does exist w not a single manufacturer using methanol injection

hotrodford 06-13-2016 08:50 AM

also EGR and pipe crankcase into the intake great tech for power , yes ?

blown 06-13-2016 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by Tinkerer (Post 4448653)
BLOWN = Bernie / Hillery supporter.
So if the volcano doesn't count in your global warming equation than Man's small amount compared to the volcano should have next to NO effect. I never could understand how you liberals ignore the output variations of the sun in ALL of your equations. If the earth is warming caused by man made CO2 what about when the USA was the worlds biggest producer, Did you ever drive through Gary Indiana 50 years ago. This planet is able to regulate it's CO2 levels in ways man will never understand. What the EARTH can't regulate is the Sun's output.
Keep drinking the KOOLAID
I suppose you think Hillery isn't guilty of anything. AND that there wasn't anything that could have been done to save our ambassador.
OH and by the way the Antarctic ice cap is growing at an alarming rate.

Tinkerer, your entire argument there is based on fallacy. The entire global volcanic output of CO2 is less than 1 percent of the CO2 from our fossil fuel emissions. I have already previously linked to scientific data on that issue, and this scientific consensus isn't even being argued by anyone. Check your facts and get back to me if you can find any credible evidence to the contrary.

You've made some vague claims there that the Sun's output is varying and the cause of temperature shifts, this is not borne out by any science, but again if you have some credible evidence go ahead and post it. Otherwise its nothing more than fantasy.

Drawing in politics, who you think i support, and other canards is just a good way of creating straw men to argue over. Not relevant, nor a factor in discussion based on facts, reason, and evidence.

blown 06-13-2016 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by sutphen 30 (Post 4448738)
great plan,,then kill off all the plant life,,what do you think plants strive off of?lets scrub off all the co2 or alot of it,,kill the plants and or put us into an ice age.but don't worry,,mother nature will kick you nut jobs in the nuts and fix the plant itself.

Your suggestion is analogous to your central heating is stuck on warm in the summer, and you want to fix it with 10 sticks of dynamite with your family in the house. I dont think i actually need to explain why destroying the principle process that keeps our planet habitable is the answer.

blown 06-13-2016 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by hotrodford (Post 4449002)
OK I mentioned gore , not that it matters , all you hard core believers gonna install this marvelous fabulous exhaust filters great technology on your boat motors ? love to see that as proof pics

No, unfortunately there is no magic exhaust filter. Like the rest of you gents, i'm going to keep using fossil fuels until there is a viable alternative and/or the cost of gas gets to the point where it truly reflects the long term cost to society. Difference is that I'm acknowledging evidence based and peer reviewed science rather than simply discounting what i dont want to hear.

And yes, like you all, i'd be happiest if some tech was developed which allowed us all to continue going fast and making a chitload of noise doing it. Im not happy having to acknowledge these realities, so dont think its just that I'm hellbent on taking your fun away.

Wobble 06-30-2016 09:50 PM

A little positive news http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-36674996

Wildman_grafix 06-30-2016 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by Wobble (Post 4455174)

Heard that today, been a long time coming.

Mseuro 06-30-2016 10:20 PM

Omg, the ozone cycles since the beginning of time. The report is nothing new other than to convince the uninformed that mankind is making a difference. HELP WE NEED MORE MONEY to fix something we have no possible way if controlling, get a grip and read a book.

SB 06-30-2016 10:22 PM

We can invent corks or on/off switches for volcanoes.

blown 07-01-2016 09:27 AM

“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” certainly applies here.

"We can invent corks or on/off switches for volcanoes." Volcanoes emit less than 1% of the CO2 that we contribute to the atmosphere by burning fossil fuels. Repeating something that has no relation to reality does not make it true. Volcanoes do not emit significant CO2. Scientists can and have measured those outputs, its not rocket science.

"Omg, the ozone cycles since the beginning of time" Gasoline cycles through your fuel system that doesnt mean dumping sugar in the tank wont mess it up. Humans denying something so well established as whether CFC's destroy ozone in the atmosphere really makes me wonder if we deserve to survive as a species.

"A little positive news http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-36674996" Yes that is a good development, although unrelated to global warming except as a lesson: how did we achieve it? By recognizing incontrovertible scientific fact and adjusting our behavior.


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