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I don't get why people wouldn't want to do everything to preserve our planet. We all play on the water, clean water is great, water that gets you sick is not. Many of us play outdoors skiing, snow sledding, mountains, blah blah blah, it nice to be with nature...unspoiled by scummy mankind. I like drinking water from my well that doesn't give me cancer...yet people get defensive about polluting.
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Originally Posted by Wasted Income
(Post 4440409)
I really want a tv teleprompter reading puppet telling us that all the real scientists in the world don't know what they are talking about. Like it or not environmental laws have made our gearhead lives better in many ways. We now have production, emission legal 640hp small block engines as a direct result of the effort to reduce emissions. I can remember sitting in a drive through about to pass out from the fumes being generated by cars in the 70's. The plants I worked in and around stank for miles, now I cant tell that one of the biggest refineries in the world is less than a mile from my office. Every time new emission rules are proposed people cry about the jobs that are going to be lost and yet all I see are more jobs and better technologies and more efficient vehicles. |
Originally Posted by Wobble
(Post 4440430)
Like it or not environmental laws have made our gearhead lives better in many ways. We now have production, emission legal 640hp small block engines as a direct result of the effort to reduce emissions. I can remember sitting in a drive through about to pass out from the fumes being generated by cars in the 70's.
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Originally Posted by Wobble
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Quote from John Coleman "“Many people don’t accept my position that there is no significant man-made global warming because I am simply a Television Meteorologist without a Ph.D.,” he admitted in a blog post. “I understand that.”
I really want a tv teleprompter reading puppet telling us that all the real scientists in the world don't know what they are talking about. Like it or not environmental laws have made our gearhead lives better in many ways. We now have production, emission legal 640hp small block engines as a direct result of the effort to reduce emissions. I can remember sitting in a drive through about to pass out from the fumes being generated by cars in the 70's. The plants I worked in and around stank for miles, now I cant tell that one of the biggest refineries in the world is less than a mile from my office. Every time new emission rules are proposed people cry about the jobs that are going to be lost and yet all I see are more jobs and better technologies and more efficient vehicles. Pretty weak argument, by the way. By your logic, all the engine builders who don't have an automotive engineering degree, or a PhD in mechanical engineering, or physics, or a boat designer who doesn't have a degree in naval architecture must not have a clue either? Experience / emperical data and independent research means nothing? |
Originally Posted by Wasted Income
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Ok, so you've bashed his credentials...but can you disprove his data? That's the real issue, not deflecting to the fact that he doesn't have a PhD in Meteorology.
Pretty weak argument, by the way. By your logic, all the engine builders who don't have an automotive engineering degree, or a PhD in mechanical engineering, or physics, or a boat designer who doesn't have a degree in naval architecture must not have a clue either? Experience / emperical data and independent research means nothing? |
What is Al Gores credentials other than getting a D in that class ?
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Originally Posted by Wasted Income
(Post 4440456)
Ok, so you've bashed his credentials...but can you disprove his data? That's the real issue, not deflecting to the fact that he doesn't have a PhD in Meteorology.
Pretty weak argument, by the way. By your logic, all the engine builders who don't have an automotive engineering degree, or a PhD in mechanical engineering, or physics, or a boat designer who doesn't have a degree in naval architecture must not have a clue either? Experience / emperical data and independent research means nothing? Not knocking engine builders at all, spent many days around the dyno room. There are many self taught people that have innovated. The scientists/engineers are the ones (generally) that conceptualize the technology to make engines more efficient and cleaner. |
Originally Posted by SB
(Post 4440463)
What is Al Gores credentials other than getting a D in that class ?
Gore enrolled in Harvard College in 1965, initially planning to major in English and write novels but later deciding to major in government.[17][18] On his second day on campus, he began campaigning for the freshman student government council and was elected its president.[18] Although he was an avid reader who fell in love with scientific and mathematical theories,[18] he did not do well in science classes in college and avoided taking math.[17] His grades during his first two years put him in the lower one-fifth of the class. During his sophomore year, he reportedly spent much of his time watching television, shooting pool, and occasionally smoking marijuana.[17][18] In his junior and senior years, he became more involved with his studies, earning As and Bs.[17] In his senior year, he took a class with oceanographer and global warming theorist Roger Revelle, who sparked Gore's interest in global warming and other environmental issues.[18][27] Gore earned an A on his thesis, "The Impact of Television on the Conduct of the Presidency, 1947-1969", and graduated with an A.B. cum laude in June 1969.[17][28] Gore was "dispirited" after his return from Vietnam.[30] NashvillePost.com noted that, "his father's defeat made service in a conflict he deeply opposed even more abhorrent to Gore. His experiences in the war zone don't seem to have been deeply traumatic in themselves; although the engineers were sometimes fired upon, Gore has said he didn't see full-scale combat. Still, he felt that his participation in the war was wrong."[35] Although his parents wanted him to go to law school, Gore first attended Vanderbilt University Divinity School (1971–72) on a Rockefeller Foundation scholarship for people planning secular careers. He later said he went there in order to explore "spiritual issues",[23] and that "he had hoped to make sense of the social injustices that seemed to challenge his religious beliefs."[39] In 1971, Gore also began to work the night shift for The Tennessean as an investigative reporter.[40] His investigations of corruption among members of Nashville's Metro Council resulted in the arrest and prosecution of two councilmen for separate offenses.[35] In 1974, he took a leave of absence from The Tennessean to attend Vanderbilt University Law School. His decision to become an attorney was a partial result of his time as a journalist, as he realized that, while he could expose corruption, he could not change it.[23] Gore did not complete law school, deciding abruptly, in 1976, to run for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives when he found out that his father's former seat in the House was about to be vacated.[23][41] |
So, how's ^^^that as a nut slapper ?^^^
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