paint does not look as bad up close, still see a lot of gloss.

That drive def hit something big to look like that now :(

I agree 100%. Much more interesting than the latest round of CC Verado installs

Tyson (BigSilverCat) posted on this a long while back. I can't remember if it's on this thread somewhere or not.
Regardless, he has a lot of experience with long distance speed runs, and he had a lot of facts and pointed out holes which debunked their record's attributes.

Unpopular opinion... But I could not agree more. My understanding was that it worked really well though.. I think it was 7xchamp that I read that from.

I think I mis-read Tommys post. What I meant was; I wish there were some more details on this whole story/situation of the boat in Cuba

Personally I like the original the best, but I like everything old school. Can't tell me this isn't timeless. All that and a bag of chips
https://apachepowerboats.com/wp-cont...itage-45-7.jpg

[QUOTE=Bad Ass TA WS6;4525046]I think I mis
I love the original. I still remember seeing it run in Key West for the first time. Like it was yesterday. People around me were astonished and amazed over the way this boat was running, Nobody saw this one coming out for that race.

We snapped a skeg in the same spot years ago. We had a soft grounding in a channel, so the skeg was in mud or sand when the wind blew the bow sideways.

yikes....but I thinking about it if that skeg was in the mud good the weight of the boat is just too much. The skeg seems like it "should" hold up much better but I have no real clue with those drives.

what did they hit?? a columbian submarine?

DO NOT take this wrong, but how in the hell can it NOT look as bad up close as it does in the pics?

At some point, ya just gotta stop wasting money.

The clear is still good. Pretty typical with candy paint. To me, it looks like they used house of colors candy tangerine orange. It does NOT hold up will in the sun. But its the actual paint under the clear that fades, while the clear stands up way better. (not that I've seen it up close) but I think what he's saying is, its still nice and shiny up close and the fading doesn't look so splotchy once you're up to it.

And regarding the boatd look....I like it both ways. Liked the original, like the re-build. Though the way it swoops up in the rear is "different". Kinda looks like the rear of an MTI.

Just in case anyone missed the build on the boat:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...=0&FORM=VDFSRV

Yep it's on this thread.

Here post #35
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...he-cuba-4.html

Or here.



Just thought there me be a little more info by now.




*Originally Posted by PigNaPoke *
So we all followed the record run, and there hasn't been much said since.*




Promised go pro footage, nothing.*




Now I see pictures of the boat sitting in a boat yard fading and rotting away. How about a followup?*








Reason there was no go pro footage and all the videos of it doing the actual run are pulled down is because it was glass smooth the whole way and they were claiming 9 foot seas. They literally said they had blisters on there hands from throttling so much in the rough water.*




I take my endurance runs pretty serious. I normally wouldn't call someone out this bad but I have given them every chance to tell the truth and they haven't.*




I did lots of research the days prior to them doing the run, the day of run, the days after run.*




First thing is weather reports: We have weather routing companies that we use that are really accurate. They all said it was 1 foot seas or less from start to finish. That there was no way it was bigger in the middle. The wind reports from 15 different companies showed 2 - 4 MPH wind from the south west that morning they did the run. Which that wind direction would be going with the current that goes between cuba and key west to not stack the water up.




First hand people on site: We talked to people that were in key west that morning, fishing charters that night asking them about the water conditions towards cuba that morning. Coast guard that was between keywest and cuba, commercial boats that were in the area, and people in cuba when they arrived. They all said the water was glass smooth and no wind (which all the pics and videos from that day show.)




Weather bouys: there are bouys between keywest and cuba that all showed hardly any wind and 0-1 waves and 0-2 occasional long duration swells.*




Then comes the record time: The record was supposed to be from dock to dock and we made a chart of the spot tracker locations the whole way with average speed, distance, time, ect. and we gave them the benefit of doubt by starting our chart several miles away from the island and moving that direction and stopped our chart before they made it to cuba. According to the spot tracker it was more then 1 hour 50 minuites not counting each end. They say they did the record in 1 hour 30 min.*




The spot tracker worked the whole way and it is gps based just like the ones in the boat so how did they "mysteriously loose all gps signals in the boat" or have there gps "blocked by the government"?




The video they uploaded a few days after the run and said "this is video from the run" showing how rough it was. If you watch the video there are a few problems. In the video the boat did not have the same stickers on the side that it did when it left key west or arrived in cuba. So they must have left the dock and stopped, pulled the stickers off, took the helicopter video, then stopped and put the stickers back on. Seems like a lot of work when your doing a record run. And if you pay closer attention the helicopter was on the starboard side of boat. The boat was running south west in the morning, how was the sun shinning on the starboard side? Could have been a big reflector on the helicopter for the photo shoot. The waves they are running in the video were cresting from the north-east which is backwards of what they should be according to the wind/wave/current reports.




There is a lot more wrong with the story but I will leave it there. Here is a chart of the spot tracker and a video link from cuba showing how smooth the water was.*




The reason I take this pretty serious is because they say they averaged 90 MPH the whole way in rough seas. When they only really averaged in the 50 MPH range in smooth water. If I go to try to beat this record and its rough and I average 89 MPH I would not set the record?*




https://youtu.be/G72t35FPS-Q








I have been back and forth from Marathon to Cay Sal Bank that lies just barely 20 miles from Cuba,a dozen times on a 22 foot SeaCat .

All of the runs but one coming home, did we have anything but Glass conditions.

The same SeaCat has ran back and forth to Cuba via Fort Myers to Key West to Cuba twice also. Not to mention a few runs to the Tortugas from Fort Myers.

No big deal in anything but winter and Spring Fronts.

Macmannus telling the harrowing Tale.

https://youtu.be/kAwIn3LLoYU

Looks like there is still a lot of gloss and shine in the paint, the orange color is all that seems to be gone.

Compared to the project build price/time for the boat/power - the paint is cheap to fix (total repaint) in a single colour...sand, spray buff and go boating. Simple!

9 foot waves... :rolleyes:

I believe the color is tangello orange. Made for lambo if I'm remembering correct. It fades like the needles on Livorsi gauges. Haha bad choice for a 50 foot sun catcher in a tropical climate.

You are correct on what I thought, thank you for the clarification.

Personally I don't think it was a pearl color looks almost like a neon orange and there are disclaimers on most of that stuff not to expect it to last long in UV.

Either way like SL said cheap part of that boats total cost. I wonder what is next for it?

Yea, all candies do that in the sun. Ain't nothing new. They're fine as long as you take care of them. Like, don't leave them to bake in 100 degree sun for a year. Lol

I don't feel like going back through the articles to find it but there is some information on the paint in one of them. Some special stuff that couldn't even be produced in the US supposedly.

I believe it. EPA had cracked way down on paints, chrome plating etc. they don't make it like they used to is literally true do to all the Ethel methyl bad sh*t as my dad always says. Lol

He claims its a unique color created just for the boat. Apache Star Orange.

So in other words, 2 drops of unobtainium orange were added to a gallon of regular candy fluorescent orange paint?

that and every traffic cone in the USA...

Thanks Rob, everyone in the office is looking at me now...laughing so hard you choke on your coffee seems to draw attention,

The reason it was painted Traffic Cone Orange was to alert anything in its path, ie. boat ,planes , Cuban refugees on inter tubes .
And it was a good thing they did, being the Blistering speeds it ran through the 9 foot waves to break the record .

Unfrtanately the neon paint couldn't stand the pounding , and it fell off in micro increments on the run.

They should be thankful .

It was at those kind of speeds that the Rawhide came apart.

But it didn,t

After all we are talking about an APACHE.

Uh Huh Uh Huh. --Oh Yea

Just came across this horrible video. Is there any new info on the boat or was it just some rich person spent a boat load of money(pun intended) to have some fun and move on?

jadento

He still uses it, it is faded and pretty much white now but he still runs and enjoys the boat. He is on IG

Is it now in Germany or in Florida? Any videos of him running it now? I'm not on IG.

Sad reality is that after being exposed in Cuba for that long, the pics of it on the trailer indicate that a couple of guys wet sanding/ buffing and a new set of decals... the boat "could" look like it did back in the hey-day of post #165.

That much exposure was a death sentence for the road Pylon Orange paint, but if you can afford the BS the boat has been through after paying for the rebuild and attempt to run to Cuba - what's a paint job in you new favorite colour.

Florida In Dade area

Owner seems happy with how it looks with the faded paint. He seems more than capable to change it back if he wishes but he doesnt.

https://i.imgur.com/TmieTK4.jpg

Doesn't look horrible or anything. It's turning into an off white / beige almost it looks like.

That tangerine / candy orange does NOT do well in the sun.


That thing sure would be fun to run!

Considering how the Tangerine held up, I'm kinda surprised that the black looks a vivid as it does in the pic and not burned up as well

Great respect for anyone that can keep one of these running.

Love that boat. Would be interested in making it pretty again when he’s done with it