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scottgjerdingen 07-02-2016 11:22 AM

Nitro - Not right. I have a boat (which is getting painted and having a new drive put in so I am boatless on the 4th). I am lined up to buy a 272 but repairs on it that were due in may may not be done till end of season so I am looking around (owner of the 272 is aware). Maybe it was in bad judgement on my part, but I went the "story" route on this thread because, rational or not, I did not want my find (boat with transom concerns) "poached" from underneath me until after I saw the boat. As mentioned, I have never seen the boat, but i did speak with someone who knew the boat well several years ago, so that and the make of the boat led me to call it "nice." True, I guess you could say I am leveraging info coming from a prior survey, pretty much in the same way I leverage info coming from OSO, but I am not using this to paint a rosy picture only to get burned later, quite the opposite. Generally speaking when someone sees damage it is a lot easier to believe this than if they give it a clean bill of health. Of course I still need time to climb around in the boat and make my own assessment. No, I did not pull meteorological records, I trusted the word of someone involved at the time.

Reading back over this thread, among the distractions (for which i'll take blame) there is some really good info here. Thank-you for that.

Now I know why I am at the computer on the biggest boating holiday (boatless today), why is anyone else?

tommymonza 07-03-2016 04:08 AM

:evilb::evilb:Wait






What am I missing here?




Glass Dave is from Ohio and he has a thing for U of M, 2 strikes in my book,and the Wellcraft thing he is into is still up in the Air.



Why is this Clown well respected?:evilb::evilb::evilb:

glassdave 07-03-2016 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by dockrocker (Post 4455540)
Wow, lot of butt-hurt going on here. Personally, all these references to Glass Dave as "well respected" are throwing me off. Hell, the guy is from fricking Ohio and everyone knows ya can't trust those types... ;)

this coming from a DEEE - troit'er :D . . . . or is it Duh-troit . . . lol :D


Originally Posted by Speedracer29 (Post 4455547)
Yeah, he's from Ohio, but he takes "Up North" vacations in Monroe and is a HUGE U of M fan, so he's cool.
.

we have a summer home in Monroe . . . . and its a double wide to :) . . .just rolled a new roof on it and fresh Tyvek siding . ..



Originally Posted by ham_r_down01 (Post 4455556)
I think the back half of the building is in Michigan and the front is in Ohio. That might explain it. Lol.

true dat . . . back o my buildin IS the MI/OH state line :cool:

scottgjerdingen 07-03-2016 05:45 PM

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Guys thanks for all the advice and feedback. I just bought a boat that some surveyor flagged with a soft transom. I went into the deal knowing it would need to be corrected. Boat i went with is 1996 Active Thunder - Thunder 32. has 2 merc blue 450's & B1's w/o props. There are minor blemishes here and there but otherwise it is really clean. I personally saw or felt no issue with the transom, but I admit I am not an expert. I plan to use the boat in a relatively gentle manner until I get the transom issue resolved and I will be keeping an eye out looking for any sign of flex from the drives. I know, useless thread w/o pics, so here goes;

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One thing I need to address quickly is getting a set of props, someone stole them while the boat was in storage, anybody know what props should be use in this config?

Thanks in advance.

vintage chromoly 07-03-2016 07:20 PM

Looks like a pretty solid start.
Good for you man!
Keep asking your questions and have some thick skin. You'll be fine.

rak rua 07-03-2016 08:58 PM

If I was a stirrer (which I'm not) I'd suggest renaming the boat to "Transom Off".

Looks pretty tidy and you're prepared for the worst case scenario if necessary. Good luck, hope you get many seasons of enjoyment in your AT.

RR

tommymonza 07-03-2016 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by scottgjerdingen (Post 4455864)
Guys thanks for all the advice and feedback. I just bought a boat that some surveyor flagged with a soft transom. I went into the deal knowing it would need to be corrected. Boat i went with is 1996 Active Thunder - Thunder 32. has 2 merc blue 450's & B1's w/o props. There are minor blemishes here and there but otherwise it is really clean. I personally saw or felt no issue with the transom, but I admit I am not an expert. I plan to use the boat in a relatively gentle manner until I get the transom issue resolved and I will be keeping an eye out looking for any sign of flex from the drives. I know, useless thread w/o pics, so here goes;

[ATTACH=CONFIG]556950[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]556951[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]556952[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]556953[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]556954[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]556955[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]556956[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]556957[/ATTACH]

One thing I need to address quickly is getting a set of props, someone stole them while the boat was in storage, anybody know what props should be use in this config?

Thanks in advance.


I used my moisture meter app on my Ipad and according to it the transom was wet in the pics of your boat that I scanned.

But I dont trust it since it was like 92% humidity here today.

But the compression app detected a bad cylinder in the starboard motor.

scottgjerdingen 07-03-2016 09:06 PM

RR - absolutely prepared and this contingency was baked into my offer. I don't if it means much, but we had some big guys on the swim platform at the same time and since it is bolted to the transom might that be a good sign? I suspect those aren't the areas that go soft first.

scottgjerdingen 07-03-2016 09:13 PM

What are thoughts on the blue merc 450? Are these pretty stable engines (built from a BBC 454?)? any further tricks to get some cheap hp out of these? what rpm do these top out at, around 52-55K ?

tommymonza 07-03-2016 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by scottgjerdingen (Post 4455899)
RR - absolutely prepared and this contingency was baked into my offer. I don't if it means much, but we had some big guys on the swim platform at the same time and since it is bolted to the transom might that be a good sign? I suspect those aren't the areas that go soft first.

If the exhaust has not started the rot than most likely any rot starts down by the drain plug. Good thing about having twins is they are mounted higher and spread away from ground zero of rot.

Trim the drives down and step on the cavitation plates and bounce on them while a buddy watches or videos it.

If they move at all it's the start of the problem.

The parasail boat I referenced earlier is spinning a Bravo 2 pulling a parasail that is equal to 4000 pounds of pull sometimes, so a Lot of pressure is put on the transom .

You will burn up the couplers before you will sink the boat from a rotten transom.

ActiveThunder 07-03-2016 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by scottgjerdingen (Post 4455901)
What are thoughts on the blue merc 450? Are these pretty stable engines (built from a BBC 454?)? any further tricks to get some cheap hp out of these? what rpm do these top out at, around 52-55K ?


I bought 2 sets of them when being replaced with the 500s. Nice engines. They had the 465s back then as well. Not nice engines,.

msher44 07-04-2016 07:09 PM

When it won't stay in gear any longer... That was my deal... 15,000.00 later, I'm all good..

tommymonza 07-04-2016 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by msher44 (Post 4456054)
When it won't stay in gear any longer... That was my deal... 15,000.00 later, I'm all good..

Is this the famous Masher of the Past ?

msher44 07-04-2016 08:00 PM

No.. Legend in my mind only... Lol

ActiveThunder 07-04-2016 08:00 PM

huh?

Originally Posted by msher44 (Post 4456054)
When it won't stay in gear any longer... That was my deal... 15,000.00 later, I'm all good..


scottgjerdingen 07-04-2016 08:43 PM

I believe masher is suggesting his transom went soft and this bit him when the gearing became missaligned. To correct transom and drive was $15K

That would really suck.

onesickpantera 07-05-2016 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by scottgjerdingen (Post 4455524)
Geeze guys, come on. Can't a guy make up a story to frame a question? And why all the hangups on how long it took to fill gas??

I was hung up on the "40 minutes to fill up" because the whole thing sounded like a made up story to me, which it was.

We have had plenty of people come on here and pretend to be something they aren't. So, made up stories can send the wrong message.

You said you didn't want the boat "poached" out from under you. You could have simply said you are looking at a boat and not mentioned what it was. Or, if you wanted to take the chance, there is some info on the boat you bought here. In fact, the old owner is a member here. Not sure if he still frequents, but he posted some info about the boat a couple of years ago.

f311fr1 07-05-2016 12:44 PM

I like the AT.


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