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Tractionless 09-27-2016 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by Nate5.0 (Post 4485205)
they said there was no booze on board the boat and they don't suspect it had any involvement.

They were spotted leaving a slip at a restaurant/bar (that Jose frequented) before the crash. Booze doesn't have to be found at the scene to be involved. Again not making a determination, just wait for the test results. In any event read the above article; Jose was emotional from a fight with his GF and wanted to go blow off some steam. Bad decision in any vehicle. I feel for the GF as I'm sure she is feeling a lot of blame.

Ghost24 09-27-2016 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by sprink58 (Post 4484953)
For everyone boating in South Florida...there is a lesson to be learned here. The Government Cut/Miami Harbor entrance jetty's are charted and marked with day and night markers. However...without local knowledge or inattention...they are hard to see at night.

Apparently Jose Fernandez...may he and the others involved Rest in Peace...prayers to the families...was killed when his 32' Sea Vee Center Console hit the jetty at a high rate of speed approximately 3 AM today.

To all my South Florida Boating Brothers out there...make sure you give these jetty's a wide berth...especially at night. They project out into the ocean nearly a mile from the mouth of the inlet at the southernmost tip of Miami Beach.

https://twitter.com/lizroldancbs4/st...887489/photo/1

Be careful out there guys...it only takes a second to change things forever.

Per the google maps distance calculator, it looks like each jetty extends about .38 miles into the ocean. Not nearly a mile, but still a huge jetty.

tommymonza 09-27-2016 11:09 AM

Approaching any jetty or pier head from a perpendicular heading or from a close proximity to shore at night is a bad idea for even the most experienced boater .

ToMorrow44 09-27-2016 11:19 AM

Just to be clear, the boat collided with the north side of the northern Jetty. So while a lot of these inlets can be very gnarly (Hillsboro I think is the worst), that was not a causitive factor in this case, he wasn't in the inlet, he was offshore traveling southbound towards the jetty.

Wasted Income 09-27-2016 12:57 PM

I rely on my plotter at night for this exact reason. It's pretty clear where the jetty is if they'd been watching the plotter. RIP.

http://i.imgur.com/hPNJBil.png

MSGANGWAY 09-27-2016 01:03 PM

yeah with steps bad idea

Sydwayz 09-27-2016 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Tractionless (Post 4485505)
They were spotted leaving a slip at a restaurant/bar (that Jose frequented) before the crash. Booze doesn't have to be found at the scene to be involved. Again not making a determination, just wait for the test results. In any event read the above article; Jose was emotional from a fight with his GF and wanted to go blow off some steam. Bad decision in any vehicle. I feel for the GF as I'm sure she is feeling a lot of blame.

IF there WERE signs of alcohol around the site of this crash, I wonder if anyone was spotted driving around the scene picking up bottle like happened at another incident this summer.
:party-smiley-004:





It was supposedly a really high tide, around the time of the accident. And the moon was not big/bright that night either. All things that could have contributed to not seeing the jetty clearly.

Nate5.0 09-27-2016 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by Tractionless (Post 4485505)
They were spotted leaving a slip at a restaurant/bar (that Jose frequented) before the crash. Booze doesn't have to be found at the scene to be involved. Again not making a determination, just wait for the test results. In any event read the above article; Jose was emotional from a fight with his GF and wanted to go blow off some steam. Bad decision in any vehicle. I feel for the GF as I'm sure she is feeling a lot of blame.

That is cause is one of the people lived above that same restaurant/ bar.


At 12:13 a.m., the texting stopped, and Bernal said he started to track the boat, nervous the dot would stop moving. Around 2 a.m., it did, at American Social Restaurant and Bar, a gastropub along the Miami River. Above the restaurant is the Neo Vertika condominium building, where 27-year-old Emilio Macias, a friend of Rivero’s who never had met Fernandez, lived. Bernal checked in with Rivero. They were docking the boat, waiting for Macias. Rivero said everything was cool. Around 3 a.m


I am just saying that people are really fast to judge. Any time a boat crashes it is always booze before anything at all regardless of what it is said or found.....pretty much saying people who wreck boats are guilty of BUI until proven other wise.

thirdchildhood 09-28-2016 06:06 AM

Why do people drive their boats fast at night? Even completely sober? Jose was on top of the world and now he is dead along with two friends... RIP

Tractionless 09-28-2016 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by Nate5.0 (Post 4485591)
That is cause is one of the people lived above that same restaurant/ bar.





I am just saying that people are really fast to judge. Any time a boat crashes it is always booze before anything at all regardless of what it is said or found.....pretty much saying people who wreck boats are guilty of BUI until proven other wise.

So no one drinks in their home before heading out either? You stated earlier in the thread no signs of booze were ground on the boat, assimilating it wasn't a potential cause; however, it's quite consumption can happen prior to getting underway. No one is judging, just saying wait for the toxicology report to come back. I hope to hell they were all clean. If not many will tarnish their legacy, which will be very sad.


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