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Skater30 10-31-2016 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by mikebrls (Post 4496235)
500R coming soon :)

The next, larger displacement motor is rumored to be between 500-600HP, so we could potentially see a 600R. Mercury wants to compete with 7 Marine, but do it with an engine that isn't grossly overweight. I just hope that whatever it is, it doesn't weigh more than 800#s and it has a low water pickup gearcase with at least 1.62 gears.

Hook'em 10-31-2016 07:30 PM

Is that why the 557 isn't on more cats, weight?

Skater30 10-31-2016 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by Hook'em (Post 4496376)
Is that why the 557 isn't on more cats, weight?

Absolutely! They weigh right at 1,100#s - which is 400#s more than a 400R. I'm not certain that the 7 Marine gearcase would work well in a surfacing application on a cat either. They're really just designed for the big v-bottom center consoles that you see them on all the time.

hogie roll 10-31-2016 10:19 PM

The power to weight ratio of the 627 and the 400r is identical. However when the horsepower totals the same the 400s are faster. Either the lower is more efficient or the RPM range on the 400 helps it.

Boatlesss 11-01-2016 08:41 AM

They have to do something as Suzuki has a better engine and they are coming out with a 400 hp engine.

Matt Trulio 11-01-2016 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by Skater30 (Post 4496386)
Absolutely! They weigh right at 1,100#s - which is 400#s more than a 400R. I'm not certain that the 7 Marine gearcase would work well in a surfacing application on a cat either. They're really just designed for the big v-bottom center consoles that you see them on all the time.

From what I've been told by the people at Seven Marine, they also are not targeting the performance-oriented center console market. They're after the bigger, heavier stuff in the more traditional center console segment..

flight club 11-01-2016 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by Matt Trulio (Post 4496507)
From what I've been told by the people at Seven Marine, they also are not targeting the performance-oriented center console market. They're after the bigger, heavier stuff in the more traditional center console segment..

Matt, what makes it a performance center console? No fishing rod holders? LOL

tomcat 11-01-2016 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by PremierPOWER (Post 4495977)
Yeah, the 700-1100 hp gap makes no sense. The fact that they have 520, 540, 565, and 600 also makes no sense.

The HP gap may be market driven. It makes sense in a world where the 48 MTI outsells the 36 MTI by a ratio of 10 to 1. (That's just my impression, not privy to MTI sales figures)

iliveonanisland 11-02-2016 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by Dean Ferry (Post 4495905)
I've heard something else, but can't say yet.......

Man up brah schpill da beans im In da market

iliveonanisland 11-02-2016 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by flight club (Post 4496622)
Matt, what makes it a performance center console? No fishing rod holders? LOL

No... no fish door or crapper


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