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f_inscreenname 11-10-2016 11:12 PM

No More Whitehouse For You !!

http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscm...p-1200-800.jpg

f_inscreenname 11-10-2016 11:43 PM

PS,
Mr Trump, there has to be an important place for Kathleen Troia "KT" McFarland in your admin.

SANLEONKID 11-10-2016 11:53 PM


Originally Posted by f_inscreenname (Post 4499599)


Buh Bye!!!

Mseuro 11-11-2016 01:14 AM

With all the ethanol subsidies, and the EPA up everyone's butt with special blends (16 I think) the added cost to a gallon of gas is about 36 to 42 cents. If we could just get them out of our fuel then we would have better gas at a cheaper cost, I have been told that food prices would go down also. NO E10 or E15, it uses more fuel for less power it also kills fuel systems over time.

Padraig 11-11-2016 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by Mseuro (Post 4499607)
With all the ethanol subsidies, and the EPA up everyone's butt with special blends (16 I think) the added cost to a gallon of gas is about 36 to 42 cents. If we could just get them out of our fuel then we would have better gas at a cheaper cost, I have been told that food prices would go down also. NO E10 or E15, it uses more fuel for less power it also kills fuel systems over time.

As we used to say In my youth..... Right On!

Padraig

PG-13 11-11-2016 06:48 AM

Subsidies in general should be removed across the board, I know many sectors enjoy from these subsidy programs, There are even some on this board that receive subsidies in their fields. Fuel prices were typically regulated by supply and demand. Now fuel prices are in large part pure Tax and are manipulated by the stock market speculation and EPA regulations. This country is suppose to be a free market. Thus like any business or like Darwin stated. "Survival of the fittest". If a business or industry does not work produce or is just not viable then it must evolve or die. We all have to deal with adversities in our daily lives and evolve around these obstacles. For a long time we comment on todays society being cuddled. Politicians on both sides have been cuddling all industries and society with subsidies. Subsidies come out of all of our pockets. Many lobby the government for handouts. This country grew out of hard work and determination. Stop all subsidies, Use these funds for the national debt. Oh and the wall. :)

Gary P 11-11-2016 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by PG-13 (Post 4499634)
Subsidies in general should be removed across the board, I know many sectors enjoy from these subsidy programs, There are even some on this board that receive subsidies in their fields. Fuel prices were typically regulated by supply and demand. Now fuel prices are in large part pure Tax and are manipulated by the stock market speculation and EPA regulations. This country is suppose to be a free market. Thus like any business or like Darwin stated. "Survival of the fittest". If a business or industry does not work produce or is just not viable then it must evolve or die. We all have to deal with adversities in our daily lives and evolve around these obstacles. For a long time we comment on todays society being cuddled. Politicians on both sides have been cuddling all industries and society with subsidies. Subsidies come out of all of our pockets. Many lobby the government for handouts. This country grew out of hard work and determination. Stop all subsidies, Use these funds for the national debt. Oh and the wall. :)

Agree mostly, but I think there is a legitimate place for SHORT-TERM subsidies, like in a fledgling industry, to help it get started. Nothing like today, where many many years of subsidies continue on, almost as an entitlement.

Ghost24 11-11-2016 08:49 AM

Respectfully, I disagree on the short-term subsidies (from tax dollars). As a taxpayer, you are then a forcible share-purchaser but with no chance at financial returns on your forced investment. There IS a place for short-term subsidies--that's what the venture capital market is for. People who CHOOSE to back new and risky ventures front operating money, with both risk and potential of return. All of that should be 100% private, freely chosen by willing investors. Anything else is another form of Solyndra.

There's another crime in any form of subsidies. Suppose you have a business and then something comes along to compete with you, and the government uses tax dollars to subsidize that. That's absolutely horrible. You are forcibly paying taxes that are being used to fund your competition. It's criminal.

TRULY free markets are the only moral approach.

Club Drew 11-11-2016 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by outonsafari (Post 4499526)
and while hopefully we can get rid of ethanol, i think the house and senate has made enough money off the cadilac convertors scam.
they need to go away as well.

:poopoo::party-smiley-004::daz:

f_inscreenname 11-11-2016 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by Ghost24 (Post 4499675)
Respectfully, I disagree on the short-term subsidies (from tax dollars). As a taxpayer, you are then a forcible share-purchaser but with no chance at financial returns on your forced investment. There IS a place for short-term subsidies--that's what the venture capital market is for. People who CHOOSE to back new and risky ventures front operating money, with both risk and potential of return. All of that should be 100% private, freely chosen by willing investors. Anything else is another form of Solyndra.

There's another crime in any form of subsidies. Suppose you have a business and then something comes along to compete with you, and the government uses tax dollars to subsidize that. That's absolutely horrible. You are forcibly paying taxes that are being used to fund your competition. It's criminal.

TRULY free markets are the only moral approach.

How do you feel about tax breaks (what the oil companies really get)?

Also on a side note, Boss says employees who agree with Trump's rhetoric should resign IMHO Grub Hub just opened themselves up for a bunch of lawsuits.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/10...to-resign.html


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