The Arneson Bravo Conversion is only .... 4" longer from the transom than a Bravo is on a standoff box.

I don't know how everyone is twisting this like any outdrive is safe to dive/jump onto but I would not want to jump on any outdrive nor outboard for that matter.

Most of the prop bites (shark attacks) I've seen are from outboards and everyone one I've seen are a result from the swimmer kicking the propeller when .. Swimming... All the accidents come from the bottom of the propeller not the top.

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Propellers are certainly not "People Friendly" so I don't advise anyone go near them even on land. But to try an single one out purely on misconception is a bit out there. We have a propeller guard just for this concern and we also can use Bravo style propellers too.

Keep this Sh** going about dangers of boating. More rules and regulations. Next they will mandate you put a pool type fence around the transom of the boat. Hustlers are very nice boats and well built. No experience but have crawled around looking at their build. I would suggest to look and try both setups. Arneson's and Bravo or other drive combination available. Discuss it with owners that have had them. The main question I would ask "Why did you sell?" What did you like and what did you dislike. Oh and stay away from sharp objects.

I'm ok with my kids swimming around the back with my bravo boats..... non labbed props even the better....
I would not (its just me) be easy with kids swimming around the back with cleavers, labbed or anything where a harmless/innocent kick in the water turns into a possible bleed-out.situation... No thanks!!!!

That's the problem with these real nice boats.... too nice & you watch yours and all your guests where they step....what they touch...and now with them being real fast you need to watch where they swim???? ............but we do it :)

Agreed our buddies cig was next to ours. He has xr's on boxes. His def stuck out further than our stock setup but nothing like this:

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First pic is of my "FAKE OFFSHORE BOAT" Second pick is a "REAL OFFSHORE BOAT" slingshot. My wannabe drives on mercury boxes fit almost completely under the platform, the bravo converted boat stick out quite a bit more.

So, can we get this back on track now that we know propellers can cut people and that most of us posers don't have "REAL OFFSHORE BOATS?"

Any word on where the slingshot hulls come apart??? Bow, stern or in between? What years were the boats with failures? Any pics?

Agree on everything you have said and shown. Also would like to know about the hull cracks. I know many hustlers have tried lifting strake mods... older and newer ones regardless of the stringer conflict. This may be what some have noticed as the boats are passed down the line. Just a thought. Overall I like the 388's. Very unique styling, plenty of space, and decent speeds per HP.

Them things need a hook to tie a hazard buoy on lmao!

Mine stick out 19"past my swim platform , I have never had blood in the water because of them I have kids and grand kids , herring and others make heavy prop bags you can put over the props if you are in a heavy traffic area.

My crack was in-between strakes...mid boat and ran 12' in length...no sign of impact anywhere on/near crack.... my 388 was a '01
My friend ( who I know has seen this thread but has not chimed in) basically had de-lamination in roughly same area- I hope he comes on and elaborates. I think he had a '99 or '00 boat

Hey Chris, mine was just like yours, the cracks were in the same area! Our Hustler was a '99. At least 4 Slingshots that were here on the west coast had de-lamination problems. All in the same area....

Wow! I know these boats are light maybe built a bit "thin" in spots? What does Hustler have to say about this?

I can only speak for myself, but they were no help....I'll leave it at that

Not what I wanted to hear

Eliminated--- a buddy of mine has a slingshot for sale --- very nice boat. Mid 90's,

Details?

Sounds like you might have already talked with Shawn about his Slingshot...

70K will buy the boat -- its worth that all day long.

Yeah if it's the Canada boat I talked to him some time ago. Detuned engines at about 650hp due to available fuel. Bmax drives

Is it the one named "Copy This" that runs around the islands?

Yes that is the one with Bmax's

The name is 'Hustle This'

Copy This is a different boat I believe that has like 2000 hrs or something crazy on it and it's on its 3rd set of power. If anyone is looking at copy this pm me before you buy

Hmmm... Tom...

Holy sh!t... so she's been ran hard and put away wet

Would it be possible to trim down and out of the way? . It must be just a picture here for fk sake. I can't imagine you having it like this while you park. It looks like someone could slip and get speared here.. Also My Fountain has a integrated swim ladder in the middle.. So If it's a side by side like you and are.. We have some safe space to get in the boat.

I get a laugh out of the Arneson haters and no one says a word about how inviting the back of the boat with the SSM drive looks...

Face it, if your going to be diving off a boat, do it in a direction that does not have propulsion nor propellers affecting you or your loved ones. We can all just follow the fallacious argument of the Navy Seals.. Use Jet Pumps.. Somehow diving onto them or getting sucked up into them and drowning is much better I've been told. :D

Yeah, who would put props back there by the "swim" platform and ladder anyway... Its like throwing a shark in the city pool :D So, I guess the better question is do you want the shark under the diving board, or in front of the diving board.... Just saying, don't killer the observer,,,, :D

Thats why they make cruisers and pontoon boats :party-smiley-004:

LOL :lolhit:

Stop it! Your justifying all the silly long bussels they are putting on the new boats today! :lolhit:

Seriously good luck on your search couple cool options your looking at, any there any other models your considering?

39 Nortech seems like a good fit as well as the 388. I'm not big on the beaks but the 38 or 42 could be options in a side by side config.. Possibly 38 T/S gun. Don't like the front bench (starboard cabin entry) of the AT's. I believe the 39v OL's have a decent seating setup?? Thought I seen them both ways..

Great list! I always like to give the advice to buy whatever the best overall value is. Most likely you will end up pouring more money into it then you plan, they all need more then we expect so better to start out with less into it vs resale value, unless your absolutely in love and it's your dream boat you will keep for a while, and we know plans change often!

I think you mentioned hoping for around 100 mph? How close are the boats you're considering to that speed. Seems like you'll have to give the power as much consideration as the boat if you want to hit that number.

The century mark would be nice to have. 90 Bare minimum. Coming from a mid 130's 30' boat so it will be a change regardless but don't want to give it up entirely. If I can hit those speeds with the added (Much needed) room, family will be happy and so will I....

Oh I see so 100mph with a toddler but don`t get those sharper props . Makes sense.
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making me nervous!!!! I looked my boat over with a fine tooth comb when I bought it and don't have any cracks.. knock on wood. but water doesn't get very rough and the boats been babied its whole life.. hopefully this summer I can go TRY and chase mean streak in some big water ! lol

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HAHAHAHAHA



but in all serious-ness. the arnesons are not a problem. I have the prop guards. which is a nice bit of reassurance if someone would slip. I've had plenty of kids around the back of my boat, tell them to stay away. and they do. or just get a pair of prop bags... and you never need to worry. I swim around my props ALL THE TIME and never have even gotten close. I've been boozed up too. (after I'm back for the day). I think if an accident happens, you're screwed either way. I would never buy a bravo boat if I had the option of a comparable boat for similar money. JMO though. I'm with Dan and on this one lol

315 Phil, what power does your boat have? How does it compare to Vance's speed wise? Curious what difference the drives make.

the "danger" of an arneson boat is well worth the "risk" in my opinion
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I mean if Phil hasn`t cut himself then then any 5 year old should be fine.