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bulletbob 11-18-2016 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by Gladhe8er (Post 4501894)
I don't know how true this is. I know that Geico got rid of their engine builder after their disastrous 2015 season(It was a speed on the water article). Apparently someone else was doing the engines in 2016.

You could be right. The video on Youtube is Behind the Garage: Snapon great garages. The video is 5 months old and Gary says in the video he assembled the top ends on the motors.

Gladhe8er 11-18-2016 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4501897)

Yup, that's it. I was told that in Key West alone in 2015 they blew up all 5 of their motors that week. Had to borrow one from CRC just to make the start on Sunday.

c0ncEpT 11-18-2016 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by Gladhe8er (Post 4501894)
I don't know how true this is. I know that Geico got rid of their engine builder after their disastrous 2015 season(It was a speed on the water article). Apparently someone else was doing the engines in 2016.

Geiko now builds there engines in house. They are 1650 based (Overhead cam V8) but heavily modified.

stimleck 11-18-2016 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by Tim G. (Post 4501800)
For a bit of clarity... The 1650s are RACE engines. They have a short life span...
In no way should they be considered engines for pleasure boats. They are RACE engines.
Some get 20 hours, some get 50....
You may see the Wake Effects and CMS crew changing engines at the races... It does not mean that they have failed. The team manager closely monitors the time and condition of engines.... They have several engines.... Changing out an engine out of an MTI is not a painful process... Not keeping your act together and loosing is painful.

For additional clarity, the Geico team handles managing and tuning of their own engines... They are not 100% out of the box Mercury engines assembled, tuned and built by Mercury Racing... Please do not confuse their reliability record with the engines built and delivered by the crew at Mercury.

Take note that Team Envy now has Mercury 1650s in their boat. The Envy team had a great Key West:)

would this be consistent with other race engines?

stimleck 11-18-2016 05:34 PM

From the article
"The high-profile partnership between the offshore racing outfit and the engine builder (Mercury) lasted a year, but for economic reasons the two parties parted ways and Miss GEICO started its own in-house engine program based on the quad overhead cam, turbocharged engine platform. "
? does anyone know what that means

phragle 11-18-2016 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by stimleck (Post 4502062)
From the article
"The high-profile partnership between the offshore racing outfit and the engine builder (Mercury) lasted a year, but for economic reasons the two parties parted ways and Miss GEICO started its own in-house engine program based on the quad overhead cam, turbocharged engine platform. "
? does anyone know what that means

I think (if I read between the lines correctly) it means geico had issues, tried to fix issues, merc got upset because gieco was in the motors trying to fix things and told them to pack sand...... just a guess....

indysupra 11-18-2016 06:04 PM

I read it as them not wanting to pay merc's rebuild costs.

Interceptor 11-18-2016 07:09 PM

Crazy stupid money

Gladhe8er 11-18-2016 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by phragle (Post 4502067)
I think (if I read between the lines correctly) it means geico had issues, tried to fix issues, merc got upset because gieco was in the motors trying to fix things and told them to pack sand...... just a guess....

I've heard mercury won't even sell to Geico anymore.

SB 11-18-2016 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by Gladhe8er (Post 4502153)
I've heard mercury won't even sell to Geico anymore.

Did they have a deal together and it went south ? Or just some major cursing ?


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