Performance Boat Center Taking On 35 Doug Wright RT Pleasure Cats
 

Performance Boat Center adds yet another coveted brand to its new-boat dealer portfolio, https://speedonthewater.com/in-the-n...-pleasure-cats.

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450k? Hmmm I know a 32 is right at 300k, 150k more for just 3 feet of boat sounds stiff. Maybe I'm missing something.

Bad A$$ boat for sure

I hear they got 6 coming pbc will keep them busy for a while. plus probably got some of a deal

Anyone know how wide the 32 is and how wide the 35 will be?

From the DW FB page:

the blue 32RT is 350K wholesale. The new 35RT needed many months of design, computer modeling and hundreds of thousands of dollars for building the tooling, labor and materials. So it’s not just 3 feet more. If you want to talk about dimensions, the 32RT has a 9’7” beam and the 35RT is 10’ 6”





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You heard correctly. Noted in the story.

the DW 35 will run in the 120's without a doubt. the numbers the DW's run are not one shot deals, they are everyday numbers. On another level!

Awesome! Can't wait to see a few!

Everything about this is awesome except that price. :eekdrop:

Beautiful boat!

But there is something seriously wrong in the world when a 35 foot outboard boat is 450000.

The engines are what 40 each? So 350 for the hull and everything else. It's just mind boggling! The world no longer makes sense to me!!

I thought the 400s were like 30k each?

DW is the most underestimated highend cat builder

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From the DW FB page:

the blue 32RT is 350K wholesale. The new 35RT needed many months of design, computer modeling and hundreds of thousands of dollars for building the tooling, labor and materials. So it’s not just 3 feet more. If you want to talk about dimensions, the 32RT has a 9’7” beam and the 35RT is 10’ 6”








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The 318 Skaters are 350k to 400k IIRC.

Matt was quoted 110 but you have the seat time in your beauty. 100-120 in a 35 cat running twin 4 strokes in the rough is a definite beast... either way, the 400's are changing the cat market - quiet, mpg, reliability and speed.

I love BBC but they are starting to come a distant second more and more - the bang for the buck is hard to justify vs. these engines in similar applications.

Yes i too love the BBC sound as it idles off the fuel docks

But this 400R beast that merc racing has built is multi faceted, and has multi threaded use

...on one hand high performance cats can reach performance speeds like never before in a twin application

...and on the other, boat builders like Formula can use this power to operate on their large 40+ foot cruisers ...just incredible






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And this is a bit longer (with more than just a bustle added) with build quality and speeds that are right there or even slightly exceeding that of Skater. So $450k seems in line if Skater is a standard in pricing.

The speed number supplied by Brett Manire of Performance Boat Center was understandably conservative. There's no point in promising something that can't be delivered, right?

Priced right, should be 225-250K

The skater is a bigger boat in all aspects besides length. Wider, bigger sponsons and bigger cockpit with more going on.
I think DW is where Skater was back in the early 90s. Both started as building race boats. It seems DW is on the verge of breaking out into the pleasure world more seriously. Skater prices are and have been earned over the last few decades. My point to the question earlier in this thread was- if the DW 32 is 300k then how just their same boat go up 150k for 3 feet. Doesn't matter what Skaters cost.

And the explanation Noli posted from their FB page was ok for me.

Either way we are talking a lot of coin!

We are calculating every step of the 35 Doug Wright build to be as competitive as possible. There is a lot of rigging equipment cost, price of engines, propellers, paint, over the top custom interior etc. I mentioned in the SOT article, a price that I would be able to deliver at. We will continue to try and shave costs for the end user as much as possible. We should have our first 350 around late May. Details will be posted along the way. Very excited to see this new model emerge.

I would say the rigging and painting price should be in line with the twin engine center consoles. There is a lot of rigging and painting going into those. And if you go to miami show you will see dozens upon dozens of those. It shouldnt be thought of as this being any more specialized a build than those. Just my thoughts

There are other cats out there with twim O/B that fall into that range if that is your target price.

Hey I'd love to see this boat knock it out of the park. I'm excited for the skater 318 ob, the mti 34 ob, and now this 35rt. I'm an o/b guy so much that I built a boat with 300's and then just recently re-rigged with 400s, I guess i'm having a hard time seeing the extra 150-200K these newer models are asking for. I'm sure the cost of some materials have gone up but 70-90%??

[QUOTE=precisiondetails;4528947]The skater is a bigger boat in all aspects besides length. Wider, bigger sponsons and bigger cockpit with more going on.
I think DW is where Skater was back in the early 90s. Both started as building race boats. It seems DW is on the verge of breaking out into the pleasure world more seriously. Skater prices are and have been earned over the last few decades. My point to the question earlier in this thread was

You should take a ride in the new 32' RT. Another level.

Putting the cost aside they are BOTH great boats. As far as the 30-36' cats using the new 4-stroke outboards, the only thing the Skater has over the DW is cockpit size in my view. The DW has more put into the design from a function standpoint. They both use great materials and have great processes. The DW is lighter but by no means a "potato chip". They are built super rugged. DW can build a 6 man cockpit 35RT if someone really wants one but it's not their design philosyphy. The new 35 has a 10' 6" beam and full 35' length not including the wing between the outboards. This is not going to be a small boat. The new design also has a LOT of updates to the bottom and tunnel. DW is defintely not behind ANYONE as far as building boats. Their technology, experience and constant analyzing and improving has them at the forefront.

Like I said both great boats, just my .02

since we are talking about the bank note$$$ on the DW - Where does the 34 MTI fall into the Cat fight?

The MTI is around $450K out the door with a trailer also

As far as O/B Cats the market IMO is about to take off. Even more so when mother Mercury has a bigger motor. If you look at the operating costs of the O/B versus a pair of 1100+HP motors/drives and a I/O Boat that would be close to a Million Dollars $450K sounds like a deal LOL. Did I just type that?????
Granted it cannot run 160mph but bang for the buck is good. I agree with Ktron that the DW are awesome boats. However currently I think the Skater name still carries the flag as does Cigarette does for V Bottoms and resale value. But with more boats being built that may change in the coming years.
Lastly I think no one can argue Pete's boats have held up well in the test of time.

Oh don't get me wrong- the DW is awesome in every way. I was talking simply on an economic and price standpoint.

PS- your boat is one of my all time favorites. It's off the charts!!

DW has Beyond proven itself In racing along with the other high end cats. Nothing to take away from any of them. All are great and expensive. Let's let give it a chance after all all the ones being talked about are not in my price range lol.

The funny thing is when they try and justify the price by over the top paint and rigging.

The pricing strategy is very simple...."how much is the skater?"....yeah that sounds good. And that would provide a very very handsome ROI.

After all why build 4 @ 250 when you can build one at 450 and make the same if not more. No one ever said they were stupid :)

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I think that all of these new hull builds came as a result of the 400R from MotherMerc

Every major cat builder has jumped into the bandwagon of build big to handle these beautiful powerful motors.







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I agree. It costs the same to rig a twin engine 400r anything boat. Having rigged cats they are actually easy to work on. Other than the paint/interior. Rigging is much easier. Built in Steering rams/ steering plates already installed and just one engine harness. No throttle/shift cables to adjust and now a simple LCD display. All plug in play. I realize they need to recoup expenses for design and devolpment but heck not in a few sales!!!!!
Problem for the industry is and continues to be is that there are no boats that are affordable for most people to bring younger blood into the sport.
I think that it is very important to high performance boating.

was it skater that thought about bringing back the 21 single as "entry level" performance boating??? obviously that didn't com about but where were they on price I wonder????

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I read somewhere that Pete actually had a plan to bring back the Skater 24. But when the power of choice had no warranty coverage, he quickly abandoned the idea. Luckily there are other builders who are trying to resurrect the 21 and 24 cats and would be a great way for "young blood" , as Ron indicated, to enter the "affordable" performance cat market.


I can get turnkey prices if anyone is interested.






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