Fram Oil Filters ...
 

Are good for target practice. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRRgw4B7R-I

So I got you in the habit of cutting open oil filters now to, Just kidding with you.

I seen that vid long ago, Have not used any Fram filters since 1996 after I cut one open and found cardboard end caps and very thin filter media. .

Ha! Would I use a Fram filter for my boat? No. I have been using them in my cars for MANY years and have never had any oil related problem. My current daily driver has 215K miles on it and I drive it like I stole it.

I buy Fram PH-5's by the case. Never had an issue with any of them ever.
I don't think this issue will ever be settled. I have a printed out list on my garage wall of all the different filters that fits a Merc oil filter remote and how they rated. Frams were considered one of the better ones (top 3 I think).

Sterling uses them on builds.

Really? Sterling uses them? They have been bashed here over and over and this video backs it up that they are poorly made. The filter in the video had a big gap in the filter medium.

Is there a difference between the Napa Gold and the Wix Racing filters?

I won't ever buy a Fram filter. Ever since they had that issue in the 90s where their motorcycle filters were coming apart, and actually caused several (bad) accidents, they are off of my approved vendor list.

Just like I won't ever buy Greenies dog treat products; same reasoning. 1 strike and your out.

^^^ This, I was roadracing and saw it first hand. The standard practice was to put a large hose clamp on your oil filter and attach safety wire to the hose clamp in such a way that it will stop the filter from spinning off. The problem with the Fram oil filter was it would blow off the threads, nothing is going to stop that and the carnage that follows on 2 wheels is ugly. At least the filter stayed attached with the wire!

Been running Fram HP6a's for years.. NEVER had an issue... :)

I have been running FRAM HP-4s for 5 years on my Formula - no issues

Just adding for info and questions. I understand not having any problems with oil filters brands - but what testing has one done with lets say, oil analysis for monitoring wear metals and so forth to see how good or bad they are from using a filter that really offers poorly uneven constructed designed filter media ?

Media pleats that are made inconsistently in depths and spacing will have filter micron ratings all over the board. Meaning a wide range of particles and wear metal that can pass thru the larger openings of the filter media plus poor oil flow control as well,.

Basis on this and facts about how filtration and its fines lines between flow and filtering, does anyone have real world data comparing tests between Fram filters and other oil filters ? IMO the Frams especially the 3 dollar ones off the shelf -- the oil analysis for wear metals ppm count will be higher compared to a real quality oil filter.

FWIW

http://www.gmtruckcentral.com/articl...lterstudy.html

Like I said the issue will never be answered to everyone's approval. We all have our reasons. Maybe it was a failure or maybe it was a you tube video but once you are spooked and there is other options you are done. Hell some people wont buy oil at walmart but will buy the same brand in the same bottle at an auto parts store.
All I know is I did a lot of research on this a couple years back and I'm pretty sure I found this on OSO.
Oil Filters fits most Mercruisers
FYI:The thread type on the filter is 13/16-16.


Fram: PH5..Best Flowing...best for racing applications HP4 and the HP series, DG5, PH13 (no anti drainback)
Pureolator: L34631
Purolator Pure One: PL34631...Great flow, capture and price
AC: PF1218, PF932...best "cheap priced filter"
Motorcraft: FL-12A
NAPA: 1060, 1060gold...
Wix: 51060
Wix Racing: 51060R, 51061R R= Racing...great overall
K&N: HP3002...very good
Baldwin: B1428
Amsoil: SDF-24...best flowing and best capturing
Hastings: LF279
Fleetguard: LF3679
Mercruiser: 35-802885Q
Mobil 1: M1-302 or M1-111..great capture..very good flow
Kendall: K31
Penzoil: PZ45
Quaker State: QS5
Shell: S63, SH38
Texaco: T38, T38B
Warner: PH1218
STP: S01218
Valvoline: V056
Mercury: HP Racing filter...very good design

Ya, I noticed it one day when I was looking at their website. All the builds where the oil filter was visible looked like a basic Fram. Now, they may have shipped differently (which wouldn't make sense) but that's how they're posted.

Yes, about a 75% price hike. :D

But yes, there is a difference; flow rate difference as well as a filtration difference.

Yes, their now is a difference because there is no longer Napa Gold Racing filters. If you order a racing one from Napa, it ill be a Wix in a Wix box.

Remember, the racing filter has a R at the end of the part #.

Example, you want a Napa gold 1060 in a racing version. You would ask for a 1060R. Well, that doesn't exist anymore and thus will get a 51060R Wix.

how much longer is the wix 61 vs 60

1060

Attributes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=6/20
Burst Pressure: 270 psi
Filter O.D. (Inches): 3.66 in.
Filter O.D. (mm): 93 mm
Flow Rate: 9 - 11 gpm
Gasket I.D. (Inches): 3.1"
Gasket I.D. (mm): 79 mm
Gasket O.D. (Inches): 3.444"
Gasket O.D. (mm): 87 mm
Height (Inches): 5.178 in.
Height (mm): 131 mm
Media Type: Enhanced Cellulose
Micron Rating: 21 Micron
Style: Spin-on Oil Filter
Thread Size (Inches): 13/16-16 in.

1061
Attributes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=6/20
Burst Pressure: 285 psi
Filter O.D. (Inches): 3.66 in.
Filter O.D. (mm): 93 mm
Flow Rate: 9 - 11 gpm
Gasket I.D. (Inches): 3.1"
Gasket I.D. (mm): 79 mm
Gasket O.D. (Inches): 3.444"
Gasket O.D. (mm): 87 mm
Height (Inches): 5.178 in.
Height (mm): 131 mm
Media Type: Enhanced Cellulose
Micron Rating: 21 Micron
Style: Spin-on Oil Filter
Thread Size (Inches): 13/16-16 in.

51060R
Has Anti Drain Back Valve
Attributes
Filter O.D. (Inches): 3.6 in.
Filter O.D. (mm): 91 mm
Flow Rate: 28 gpm
Gasket I.D. (Inches): 3.1"
Gasket I.D. (mm): 79 mm
Gasket O.D. (Inches): 3.44"
Gasket O.D. (mm): 87 mm
Height (Inches): 5.17 in.
Height (mm): 131 mm
Micron Rating: 61 Micron
Style: Spin-on Oil Filter
Thread Size (Inches): 13/16-16 in.

51061R
No anti-drain back valve
Attributes
Filter O.D. (Inches): 3.6 in.
Filter O.D. (mm): 91 mm
Flow Rate: 28 gpm
Gasket I.D. (Inches): 3.1"
Gasket I.D. (mm): 79 mm
Gasket O.D. (Inches): 3.44"
Gasket O.D. (mm): 87 mm
Height (Inches): 5.17 in.
Height (mm): 131 mm
Micron Rating: 61 Micron
Style: Spin-on Oil Filter
Thread Size (Inches): 13/16-16 in.

on another site they were calling the 1061 a long filter, guess not

Every "Gold" compared to "R" filter I've had was exactly the same size.

Maybe this ?

NAPA Gold 1794
Two Quart Version Of NAPA # 1061 Or # 1060
Attributes
Filter O.D. (Inches): 3.674"
Filter O.D. (mm): 93 mm
Flow Rate: 9 To 11 gpm
Gasket I.D. (Inches): 3.1"
Gasket I.D. (mm): 79 mm
Gasket O.D. (Inches): 3.444"
Gasket O.D. (mm): 87 mm
Gasket Thickness (Inches): .26"
Gasket Thickness (mm): 6 mm
Height (Inches): 7.822"
Height (mm): 199 mm
Micron Rating: 24 Micron
Style: Spin-On Oil Filter
Thread Size (Inches): 13/16-16

On the supra I would use them on initial startup after a fresh motor, cut them apart. Amazing how cheap they are compared to other filters. I had cut enough of the same exacts same Fram filter apart to see the differences in tolerances. It was amazing! Different number of pleates, some with machining shrapnel on the threads just hanging there. Had a few leak at the seams. No thanks.

BINGO and will add --- I have seen the internal media totally collapsed after cutting them open. This was in the 90 's from customers boats. Always told boaters when I seen the Frams sorry they have to go and would cut them open to be seen first hand internals. Actually most of the times, the words were wow -- holy chit thought Fram was good a filter.

Long story with marine V 6 engines way back in years -- when that engine changed the spring in the oil pump in which raised oil pressure but when one used a Fram oil filter for the V 6 --- oil pressure gauge would PEGGED totally. Anyways it was a Fram filter problem for causing the very high oil pressure readings. Short jist of it

What's up with greenies? My dogs loves those things.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...es+kill+dogs&*

http://www.oes.org/page2/10164~SUCCE...S_FORMULA.html

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/pets/greenies.html

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/02/14/dangerous.dogtreat/

Do them a favor, and cut them over to all natural stuff. We were buying all natural treats, and now have them on carrots, green beans, and rotisserie chicken for treats; and then their primary food.

I use WIX.....

I've tried the health organic route that has better ingredients than my food. Turns his nose up at it. Greenies are crack for him. I have a friend who swears dogs are designed to eat raw meat and that's about all he feeds them. I have my doubts about that.