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44MTI 04-15-2017 11:49 AM

[QUOTE=jusabum;4546389]

Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 4546388)

WHY should other boaters on a forum, discussing the issues, be careful about what we say in front of the family, when the owner of the boat in discussion didn't care?
Jus' Sayin'

Because it's the right thing to do for the family. If you don't understand that your parents didn't do their job raising you.
Secondly the owner was a very caring guy, and would give the shirt off his back. So maybe you shouldn't make comments like that about someone you obviously didn't know.

sonicss42 04-15-2017 02:11 PM

Bottom line is the initial post was about the very complete investigation/report regarding this accident/tragedy. Lives were lost, families are devistated and mistakes were made. I hope that we can all respect this for the lessons we all can take from this and do our best to prevent this from happening again. Will the moderators consider closing any further inputs and leaving it here for others to read and learn from. Respectfully and w/o prejudice..

Interceptor 04-15-2017 03:30 PM

Everyone, Somehow I'm getting tagged for a post I did not write.
Sorry someone is doing this.

Interceptor 04-15-2017 03:40 PM

[QUOTE=44MTI;4546520]

Originally Posted by jusabum (Post 4546389)

Because it's the right thing to do for the family. If you don't understand that your parents didn't do their job raising you.
Secondly the owner was a very caring guy, and would give the shirt off his back. So maybe you shouldn't make comments like that about someone you obviously didn't know.

That was not me, somehow someone is tagging other peoples posts to me. Sorry this is happening.
ed crippen

Wildman_grafix 04-15-2017 03:56 PM

[QUOTE=Interceptor;4546544]

Originally Posted by 44MTI (Post 4546520)

That was not me, somehow someone is tagging other peoples posts to me. Sorry this is happening.
ed crippen

It happened to me in another thread, not sure what's going on with the quote function.

Wildman_grafix 04-15-2017 03:57 PM

Did it right there^^^^^^

Nuke427 04-15-2017 03:57 PM

Ed, I think it's when we're quoting a quote in a quote that this happens. I sure wasn't quoting you earlier and I did quickly go in and edit it but your name did show up in the box and I think it's because I hit reply with quote on a post jusabum posted which was quoting you.... If that makes sense...

glassdave 04-15-2017 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 4546542)
Everyone, Somehow I'm getting tagged for a post I did not write.
Sorry someone is doing this.

[QUOTE=Interceptor;4546544]

Originally Posted by 44MTI (Post 4546520)

That was not me, somehow someone is tagging other peoples posts to me. Sorry this is happening.
ed crippen

[QUOTE=Wildman_grafix;4546545]

Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 4546544)
It happened to me in another thread, not sure what's going on with the quote function.


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4546546)
Did it right there^^^^^^

actually guys its not that someone tagged you or did something shifty its that early on someone quoted one of you but edited the quote but did not edit the tag properly and threw off they way they show up in the feed here. If you see something like this

[QUOTE=Interceptor;4546544]

above the quote and the name is wrong withing the quote this is where it starts and it can kind of cascade down the chain. Its just a simple overlook that people sometimes unknowingly make when editing a quote down to highlight a specific part of it. In the above string i multi quoted and as you can see it shifted the brackets and messed up the order or tags

VtSteve 04-15-2017 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by phragle (Post 4546495)
You have to factor in the human into the equation. Drunk, half drunk or sober, most of us here are type 'A' people. We like to go fast. we like to press the limits.

You can put all the NASA rocket science technology you want into a cat that can go 200 safely. As soon as you accomplish that, as soon as you make a cat as safe aa a minivan going to the grocery store, we are going to figure out how to make a 225 then 250 mph cat that is once again unstable.

Because thats who we are. Minivan rides to the grocery store are not exciting. The risk and beating the risk is the thrill.

If it wasnt for this drive and determination, we would still be sitting in caves eating sprouts and berries.

Haven't been here in eons, but not much has changed. Fast toys involve risk, people that get a rush out of risk like fast toys. As has been the case for awhile, phragle is post on.

The larger problem with episodes like this is that they typically happen when others that may not share their enthusiasm for risk-taking adrenaline rushes are present in droves. Way back in the old days, the country was far less populated than it is now, both on the highways and on the water. We all want what we all want and like to do what we all want to do. But as the population increases, we need to seriously consider the risks to others.

In this case, it didn't involve others. But it easily could have. I was out in the boat one gorgeous evening. Moonlit, calm waters, gorgeous. Just like I had dreamed of from boating nights in the 70's and 80's. I love the lake at night, always have. We were cruising back from dinner, going about 20 mph, bow down so I could see ahead. I was the only one that didn't drink that night, I was the captain. A boat came by us Starboard through a fairly narrow pass at what I'd estimate to be at least 80 mph. I felt his spray when he hit our wake. He was so close my knees shook.

I knew he had most likely came from the very same place we had just left some 30 minutes before, likely drunk. The boat was probably 15' or more longer than mine, so any impact would have been fatal for all six in my boat. I sold the boat, and have not been on the water since. With the fear of boating at night, I had no reason to continue

Revd Up 04-15-2017 08:15 PM

I don't boat at night anymore, but that is a another subject.

I have never driven a cat either as I have no experience with them.

I look at it this way. We all have ran our boats to the limits and sometime pushed it a bit. I will never put anyone down for doing something that I have done myself. These guys were enjoying the day and letting it rip. Who hasn't done that? These guys were seasoned boaters like many of us. Think back on all things you survived. I am saddened for the families and the two who died. It could have been me many times. God Bless


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