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Interceptor 04-10-2017 11:07 AM

You're responsible for your wake in a no wake zone or if you're the overtaking boat.

mitchie 04-10-2017 11:28 AM

The chilling part is the guy who was so rattled that he just wanted to get home and see his kids instead of giving a statement... The older I get the more I understand what he was feeling. Just a horrible thing all around. Makes me nauseous and sad.

29 FOUNTAIN FUN 04-10-2017 02:05 PM

Thanks All for all the great posts on this subject. I am new to the performance boating hobby/passion. Motorcycles and fast cars I have been involved with all my life. I am learning from all on here. Thank You. Agreed on the reporting, Excellent Job. Agreed on never drink and opperate anything, Even a Lawnmower. Bad Shizzz just happens to anyone.

Mentalpause 04-10-2017 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4544996)
One thing that was not mentioned in the article was they were headed pretty much directly into the setting sun.

I've run that same water at LOTO into the setting sun dozens of times and even at 50mph, a big wake that you didn't see coming or you thought was just 2-3' will be a 4-5' and will catch you off guard.

+1. Heading into that sun that time of day is is like running more than half blind. You cannot read the water.

ActiveThunder 04-10-2017 05:41 PM

Wobble, you got it. Boat wake, speed, sun in your eyes. Moot point.


Originally Posted by Wobble (Post 4545077)
Unfortunetly it has been proven that nearly everything will catch you off guard under these conditions. Very tragic for all the friends and family.

"The certified toxicology report by the Missouri State Highway Patrol Crime Laboratory Division - with names redacted - shows both occupants of the catamaran were well over the legal limit for operating the boat with one registering a blood alcohol level of 0.121 and the other 0.156, nearly double the legal limit."


Griff 04-11-2017 01:14 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4545075)
If it`s the same spot in my vid @ :13 (right after a bridge @ :20 ) then yes, sun is low, very hard to read wakes. I got in a bit of trouble over there from 2 wakes coming together and throwing my boat sideways. Scary and very unexpected even thou it may not look like it in the vid the boat was on it`s side. The V cut thru it, if I had a cat the results might have been very different.

Same stretch of water and after going under the toll bridge, you head even more directly into the setting sun.
The toll bridge is about the 14mm. The reef in front Four seasons is about the 12mm. The 10.3mm is about where Ozark BBQ is.

You also have to be careful going upstream and heading away from the sun. Be aware that boats coming at you may not be able to see you well due to the setting sun.

jusabum 04-11-2017 07:36 AM

When its all said and done, remember the owner of this MTI was a grown adult. He was old enough to make his own decisions and obviously made some good ones over the years, and possibly one last bad one. He possessed the wherewithal to purchase a high speed boat and in all likelihood, he was aware of prior accidents in similar boats and knew the risks of operating a boat like this...there is no such thing as 100% safety in a boat that is designed to go fast. As long as there is a demand for these boats, they will be built...Godspeed.

Jupiter Sunsation 04-11-2017 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by jusabum (Post 4545361)
When its all said and done, remember the owner of this MTI was a grown adult. He was old enough to make his own decisions and obviously made some good ones over the years, and possibly one last bad one. He possessed the wherewithal to purchase a high speed boat and in all likelihood, he was aware of prior accidents in similar boats and knew the risks of operating a boat like this...there is no such thing as 100% safety in a boat that is designed to go fast. As long as there is a demand for these boats, they will be built...Godspeed.

In this case, the owner even had some racing experience in catamarans. In the Lake Lanier case, both couples were long time high speed boaters. Everyone knew the risk but nobody planned on dying that day either. The Lanier case didn't publish the crash results but said high speed was a factor and oddly no toxicology results were obtained but police reported finding large quantities of alcohol at the crash scene.

I have zero catamaran experience and have never operated a boat at 100+ mph. I can see how these boats get out of control as they are damn near airplanes at certain speeds (packing air) and with over 2500 HP there is plenty of power to get the operator in trouble quickly.

I would think think after multiple fatalities in Somerset, Lanier and LOTO (all with experienced owners) the insurance companies are going to be the ones that put the brakes on owning these types of boats.

jusabum 04-11-2017 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4545383)
I Everyone knew the risk but nobody planned on dying that day either.

I don't see this as being much different than taking our sports car out on the highway. Throw all those same or similar conditions and **** happens.

hotrodford 04-11-2017 11:47 AM

damn near airplanes is right on , how about a flying wing like a Horton but w zero controls and no way to keep it pointed in even one direction /


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