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DocktorsOarders 04-16-2017 04:55 PM

Hooking up 525 Smartcraft to Simrad NSS
 
Just as the title says, I am looking to hook up a pair of Merc 525s to a Simrad NSS unit. If twin engines, I would assume use Vessel View Link as the gateway, part #8M0110641. What else will be needed to hook this up correctly. Junction Blocks, Terminating resistors, wiring harnesses etc... part numbers would much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

ALL_IN! 04-17-2017 10:28 AM

I'm in the process of considering something similar (but with Garmin). I believe all you need is the gateway.
https://embed.widencdn.net/pdf/plus/...R.pdf?u=orhjei

Wasted Income 04-17-2017 10:35 AM

Here's a quick schematic from when I installed a Vessel View 7 (NSS 7) in my boat last year.

I used to have a list of all the cable part numbers and such, but I can't seem to find it right now.

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...syfeeg3z4.jpeg

EDIT:

Found a couple more bits of info...wish I'd kept better track of this at the time, for future use. lol Hope this helps.

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...swjoung9h.jpeg

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...skvyho3tg.jpeg

Double Rigged 04-17-2017 11:53 AM

In order to get the information on the GPS whether it is a Simrad or Garmin you will need the mercury gateway yes and also set up a NMEA2000 backbone to hook up the mercury gateway to the units.
The NMEA2000 backbone needs to have power also.

ALL_IN! 04-17-2017 12:36 PM

Right - I failed to make that point. I put in a powered backbone when I installed my Fusion headunit and remote.

Wasted - is the Link cable already present in stock form, or do you have to add that?


Originally Posted by Double Rigged (Post 4546923)
In order to get the information on the GPS whether it is a Simrad or Garmin you will need the mercury gateway yes and also set up a NMEA2000 backbone to hook up the mercury gateway to the units.
The NMEA2000 backbone needs to have power also.


Wasted Income 04-17-2017 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by ALL_IN! (Post 4546945)
Right - I failed to make that point. I put in a powered backbone when I installed my Fusion headunit and remote.

Wasted - is the Link cable already present in stock form, or do you have to add that?

I started with zero smartcraft wiring to the helm, so I had to start from scratch basically. If your boat already has any sort of smartcraft gauges or monitors, or if the smartcraft cables are already run to the helm, it gets a lot easier for you.

The older VesselView 7 has the smartcraft gateway built in, so I didn't need to deal with any of that. However, i'm currently upgrading to a Vessel View 702 (NSS Evo2) and that unit uses the same 8M0110641 smartcraft gateway.
You will still need all the items between the 6 port junction box and the engines.

Barrydet 04-30-2017 02:49 PM

This question is directed to "wasted income" . Have you completed your upgrade to the 702? If so, are you getting a "rudder position/steering indicator" on your display screen? I completed an upgrade from the first generation "system view" to the VV502. It is the smaller display version of what you are using. I am not getting a "rudder position/steering indicator" display. The retail vendor and Mercruiser customer service have been of zero assistance. I posted a thread titled Vesselview 502 a while back. Thanks

Dave M 05-01-2017 06:14 AM

You are going to need Merc part #8m0105243. That is the CAN -> NMEA 2K gateway. If you already have a nmea 2K backbone and an open j-box port, that's all you need.

VoodooRob 05-01-2017 07:43 AM

Holy crap lots of info backbones, links, etc, I want to get rid of the Smartcraft and install a newer unit. Hopefully I can get with one of you techies before I get started.

Wasted Income 05-01-2017 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by Barrydet (Post 4550581)
This question is directed to "wasted income" . Have you completed your upgrade to the 702? If so, are you getting a "rudder position/steering indicator" on your display screen? I completed an upgrade from the first generation "system view" to the VV502. It is the smaller display version of what you are using. I am not getting a "rudder position/steering indicator" display. The retail vendor and Mercruiser customer service have been of zero assistance. I posted a thread titled Vesselview 502 a while back. Thanks

You are saying that you desire to have the rudder/steering indicator on the screen, but it's not showing up?

I finished my install, but the boat hasn't been wet yet. I personally don't have or need the steering/rudder stuff, since to my knowledge, the 496/bravo package in my boat doesn't have those sensors.

outonsafari 05-01-2017 03:36 PM

are the gateway part #'s the same from v8 to v8 ?
i have a 496 and need the gateway.
thanks

Dave M 05-01-2017 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by outonsafari (Post 4550791)
are the gateway part #'s the same from v8 to v8 ?
i have a 496 and need the gateway.
thanks

It works with any smartcraft capable engine. I'm using it on OB's.

outonsafari 05-01-2017 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by Dave M (Post 4550796)
It works with any smartcraft capable engine. I'm using it on OB's.

thank you

Barrydet 05-12-2017 03:46 PM

Wasted Income:

Yes, my starboard engine is equipped with Smartcraft steering sensor assembly #863188A5, It worked fine with the Systemview display but I am not seeing a steering indicator display on the vessel view screen.

headshothills 05-12-2017 06:13 PM

Im in between.. So the boat already had wiring for the SmartCraft, or so I think... There these large round cannon plugs that run from the motors to the helm and then to an analog box. I have a J-Box and Merc Gateway all tied into a Backbone, but I get all the basic info, I dont get everything, I get rpm and pressures and temps, but thats it.. I was told there is a 15pin connector that needs to be ran also... So im a little confused on my setup


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