HebertNecessity

No doubt The Activator is bad, I have never seen one and I think it lacks in leg room from the bench to the front seats. Does it have a cabin? Pictures please.

jafo

A-Bear

My thinking is near yours, especially with how to power them. I am a fan of the 28 Thunder and not just because I own one. The boat does a lot of things very well. Pantera is a very close second, and only second because of freeboard and cabin.
Since we're talking boats that can be made today and supported today, I think I would include the Sutphens.
They are incredible rough water performers from a company that is represented by generations of boat builders.
I do like the looks of the Activator and Joker boats, but have never seen one, so I won't step on my wanger saying good or bad.
One boat that I really like, and don't shoot me for it, is the Howard 28 Bullet. That boat gets tremendous write-ups everytime it's tested, and seems to handle whatever power is tossed in and maintains its good manners, just going faster. The rough water capabilities may or may not be there with the Florida boats, but it sure does look nice! Have you SCOPE boys ever seen one go to Catalina? Just curious............

SS930

Why not throw the 500 or 525 in the the Superboat? Should be a 85 mph boat w/ that power. Add hyd. steering and some nice tabs and you have one hell of a performer for a little more money. If you want more comforts, John can add them at your expense. You can run this boat with no problems with 4 people on board. Good build quality, sharp styling, and incredible performance for the money. Some people complain about the seven foot beam, but I see this a huge plus. Between the beam and the length, this boat should out perform all the others in rougher conditions... I don't think any other boat can touch it for the $$$.

If cost is no object I'd consider others (like PowerPlay), but cost is an object... if it weren't, we'd be talking about bigger boats.

Chris288

what about DCB 28, they always get rave reviews also.

SS930

You know it's funny, I never hear DCB mention anywhere other than on HotBoat. From what they all say, DCB is the best money can buy. ??? I don't know anything about their boats.

Chris288

not that I give P.B. any credit after calling us Nitwits,, ( I wonder how many of us nitwits are subscribers ?? 1/3 half ??) Anywho, lots of articles about DCB and how well they perform.. I really like the look of their boats.. ( but have not been in one up close )

SS930

This nitwit does not subscribe to PB... I have OSO.

Like I said, I hear nothing but rave reviews from the guys on HotBoat. I do hear that DCB boats are TOP dollar, but the resale is right up there.

Chris288

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SS930
[B]This nitwit does not subscribe to PB... I have OSO.

I don't see myself renewing after this year either..

rtaylor

How's this?

Quality

|------------Apache
|--------------Pantera
|-------------------Cigarette-Powerplay-Progression
|
|-------------Sonic----------------Fountain
|---------------------Active Thunder-Kryptonite
|-------------Baja-----------Sutphen-Phantom
|---------------------------------------Superboat/Activator
|
------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Speed

HebertNecessity

quality
1. Powerplay, Active Thunder, Pantera all do it real good just different ways. Tie or real close, PP slight edge

Speed if we are talking 28' is real close, bottoms and weight also real close. AT is built lighter but is also bigger.

Superboat is the fastest(with equal HP)