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28' AT, 28' Pantera, 28' Apache, 30' Superboat, 27' Kryptonite, 30' Cig, 27' Activato

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Old 10-13-2002, 08:59 PM
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Old 10-13-2002, 09:01 PM
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Mike,

Good pick. Can you elaborate as to the strengths of the Kryptonite? I had a chance to ride with Kirk Rogers and the owners of Xcelerator once and I loved it. What are your reasons?
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Quality
|-------Apache
|---------Pantera
|--------------------Cigarette
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|------------------------------------------Progression
|------------------------Active Thunder-Phantom
|------------------------------------------Kryptonite
|----------------------------------------Superboat
|-----------------------------------------------Activator
------------------------------------------------------------------------Speed
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The above insertion is my perceptual map of these boats. Maybe it isn't what you think, but it's a start. Perhaps a third value besides quality and speed (given the same power) would have been weight. ANyway, what do you think? Again, this is not a bashing intention. I believe that each boat is built with a purpose or particular use/strength. I just want to stimulate discussion, not harsh criticism. I am looking for strenghts of the above boats.
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What about 26 Sonic Prowler and 25 Baja Outlaw?

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Quality
|-------Apache
|---------Pantera
|--------------------Cigarette
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|------------------------------------------Progression
|-------------Sonic-----Active Thunder-Phantom
|-------------Baja------------------------Kryptonite
|----------------------------------------Superboat
|-----------------------------------------------Activator
------------------------------------------------------------------------Speed
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Old 10-14-2002, 11:40 AM
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i think you have to separate the objective from the subjective:

Objective:
Quality - there is only one bagged boat in the group that is fully composite construction. Do you know what it's made of? If they can not show you chances are they do not know either.
Speed - now this border's on subjective; how fast is the boat and in what conditions, will the mfr. demonstrate the speeds to you?
Cost - yes we know a Progression takes 6 months to build and is at the top of the price scale and a Baja can be fab'd in 6 weeks with 0% factory financing. You pick, Porsche GT2 or Mustang GT
Warranty - life, 10 yrs, or 10 months?
History- look at a 10 year boat from same mfr.
Service - will the mfr. hold your hand after the sale? will they be in business to hold your hand after the sale?
Rigging- is the package "race-ready"? What is the mfr's attitude about the rigging equipment?
Design: pad bottom, deep-v,modified-v, step bottom ...22,23,24,25-degree bottom. Know the general characteristics of each, and where you want to be based on that.
Configuration- Does the mfr have performance data on your configuration? or are you the guinea pig? Can they show it to you? This also relates to experience
Blueprinting (this relates to quality) - does the mfr. b-p the bottom? probably means they NEED to.
Seating/ergonomics- stand up or sit down? can you run through the snot and be in a position of control at all times?

Subjective
Image- what does the boat say about YOU? Porsche GT2 or Mustang GT?
Amenities - cupholders, etc. nice to have this stuff; what is stock & what can the builder provide?
Aesthetics- do I have to explain?
Graphics- anything can be painted on a boat


It's called diligent research

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Fastone27,

Thanks for the analysis. Very true, it's difficult to compare speed without first mentioning conditions, driver, etc. ALso, quality in terms of what? Thanks for the thorough run-through.
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Is the rest of this board bored or just stupid?
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