What's this boat??? Sunsation
 

Hey Guys,
I need some help on finding a boat model.
Owner tell it's a 2000 288 but it got twin steps on the side.... I'm a newbie so can't post any URL... I have pictures if someone can post them for me.
Thanks

EDIT: See pictures post no. 10

A 2000 288 would not be a stepped hull boat. It will, however, have ventilated chines which resemble a single step.

Yeah I know it's not a a real step. Nevermind this boat has 2 when it's supposed to have only 1 !!!
I have 3 pictures of it but can't upload them before 10 posts count.

didnt Sunsation build some kinda funky bottom in 2000 that they only built two of? i remember seeing one at, i think, Viscous Powerboats. It was a way out of the box kinda thing that was pretty ill handling but i couldn't help but respect the effort and thinking.

Maybe it's one of them. The top deck has also different vents on the side.
The front portion of the top deck has 2 windows instead of 1 on a standard 288.

Can someone post the pictures for me?

You have to be a paid member to post pictures

The first Innovator hull was built in the early '00's and that may have been what you saw. It had a rounded keel and one really big step if memory serves. Wayne ran it at one of the owner's rallies even though it was a boat financed by a customer (Frank was his name). Wayne wouldn't let Frank drive it because it handled so badly. Frank never got that boat and instead they went with a twin step design for the Innovator that ultimately became the S/SS/SSR 32 hull. I think the second attempt was a Michael Peters design.

email them to me, and I'll post. Interested to see what you are talking about.
easyrider1340 @ gmail . com

Pics were already sent to glassdave
He'll probably post them soon

that sounds like something i had heard, yes it had a big step that had a french curve look to it. It was different but like i said ya gotta respect the honest effort to do something new and un tried.

pics sent by Max

That is definitely not a Sunsation.

Yes the first attempt at the Innovator was Wayne using some guy's somewhat radical concept. Yes, the step was huge and not traditionally shaped. I think Wayne said the guy who came up with the concept said it worked on the scale model but the flaw was in how the model was pulled or pushed thru the water so it didn't translate well at full scale. Something along those lines. Been a long time ago. I want to say fall of '02 when I was at the factory and the buck was being built.

early models just vented the chines

post the HIN..........I dig it

I'll ask the owner

That has some Sunsation features to it. The windsheild and the interior mimic other models. I think it could very well be the 'one-off' that Dave was mentioning above. It's almost has more of a sport cruiser look/size/shape to it; the Donzi Z33, and the like.

IMO its a Challenger grew boat not a Sunsation

https://boatselect.com/boat/forsale/...rew-28382.html

Actually IMO I'm 99 % its a challenger grew 31 ft boat

Yeah I see nothing Sunsation about it at all. Challenger is a good guess.

Actually I take that back. If you look at the deck from just above the rubrail it does look "Sunny-ish" The deck almost looks like someone could have raised up a Sunny deck. They may have mirrored the engine intake air vent just above the original. Then maybe the added a second chine vent. Interesting.

Looks like you found it!

Research Grew Boats Challenger XLX 3100 Cuddy Cabin Boat on iboats.com

I am 100 percent now its this

Click on the 3100 Grew to open bigger photos

Looks like it from the side shot.
In the text it says pump head but it's only a porta in this one.
I'll have the HIN tonight.
The engine is a single HP500 carburetor.

I have the brochure and the interior is exact to the pic here. . Possible good read here and I did talk to the boat builder / owner of Grew / Cutter / Challenger boats located in Canada back in 2007. The boat in the pic is called an XLX 3100

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...heard-one.html

So I pulled the brochure out Its has the exact same dash and gauge layout, exact same interior lay out especially driver and passenger bolster seats. The ladder and its cover is the exact same as well. The windshield is the exact same as well. Its a Cutter / grew / Changer XLX 3100 from the Canada builder. I am 100 percent sure.

BUP I'm sending a pm with a link I can't post

Your PM box is full...

one open in the PM box now - I see the pics up here from GD -

The boat is what I said it is and they are of average quality. I actually have been in 3 of these. One brand brand new in Dallas TX way back from the late 90's, One used in AZ back in 2007 and one used that came to me in for repair years ago.

Just sent you a link with pictures of another one

In the past OSO link that I posted from me on this thread - that's the one from Dallas single engine app -- sold on Ebay for 22K. I was going to look at it but sold for the 22K before I could get over there.

I went further with the owner. The hull number is a sunsation number.
He still has the identification plate of NOREMAC MARINE beside the driver seat which is the company from David Cameron (grew, cutter, etc).
So he bought the boat from a dealer... He or the dealer was scammed...
This is a real Cutter, not a sunsation.

Most of the Noremac (Cameron backwards) Grew boats were copies of some other boat flipped. The company changed name a half dozen times due to financial issues over the years. Second rate quality at best. From what I remember it did not run well and don't think more than a couple dozen were ever made. When I saw one at the Toronto boat show years ago it looked like a 4 x 4 board was used to create the steps in the hull. Very rough and poor looking.

YEs, the Challenger XLX 3100 was an average boat, and was a splash of the Magnum 27. I owned the last one produced, and it was a good hull, and the rigging was in my opinion slightly above average. The layup schedule included vinylester resins, knytex bi and tri-directional glass, as well as end grain balsa coring throughout. At 31 feet, the boat weighed dry 5750 pounds(that was what my weighed). With twin 502 mags, I was GPS'd at 85 mph with 30" Bravo props, but it took half the lake to get up to speed. I Went to 28p for better mid range, and the boat handled quite well at all speeds. With the 28P she ran about 76-7 on the gps. Loaded, a bit less. It was a fun boat, and it held up very well both in finish and rigging. The new owner is still running well at 600 hours. I have an MP4 with it at speed, but I cant upload.