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Clustergear 11-29-2017 06:50 AM

CDL and Data Logger info
 
Hope this link works. There have been many posts about who needs a CDL to tow there boat trailer. This post is about horse trailers but is the same as boat trailer. This was posted on Facebook and cover all the questions I’ve seen over the years. Read the hole acticle as the law are changing the December. https://www.facebook.com/ProtectTheHarvest/photos/a.179760862130894.40913.119216091518705/1478805055559795/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/ProtectTheHarvest/photos/a.179760862130894.40913.119216091518705/1478805055559795/?type=3&theater

AllDodge 11-29-2017 07:11 AM

It all comes down to if you receive any type of compensation or prize then your commercial.

I hauled my backhoe over to a friend to use, and he wanted to put fuel in the truck or pay something, and I would not let him. Even if he gave me a ham sandwich this can be used to give me a ticket.

On a note about EDL, My brother in law drives a big rig in his own lumber business. He has a 1999 Peterbuilt and does not have to install the EDL equipment. The reason he is exempt is because of the age of the truck. Anything older then 2000 is exempt

DirtyMoney 11-29-2017 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by AllDodge (Post 4596454)
It all comes down to if you receive any type of compensation or prize then your commercial.

I hauled my backhoe over to a friend to use, and he wanted to put fuel in the truck or pay something, and I would not let him. Even if he gave me a ham sandwich this can be used to give me a ticket.

On a note about EDL, My brother in law drives a big rig in his own lumber business. He has a 1999 Peterbuilt and does not have to install the EDL equipment. The reason he is exempt is because of the age of the truck. Anything older then 2000 is exempt

This has now changed to engines older than 2000 to protect the glider market.

WARPARTY36 11-29-2017 07:29 PM

So do we need to get rid of the Sport Chasis and get a true toterhome with a bathroom? What is considered an RV to tow the boat legally?

AllDodge 11-30-2017 06:56 AM

Do not know all 50 state regulations, but its my understating that anyone can tow it with anything so long as the total weight of the rig, boat and trailer is not more then 26K. If your over 26K or make/receive anything in compensation a CDL is needed. Actually sharing a ride where others provide gas money you need a CDL, but have not heard of things like this being enforced

sbracing 11-30-2017 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by AllDodge (Post 4596454)
It all comes down to if you receive any type of compensation or prize then your commercial.

I hauled my backhoe over to a friend to use, and he wanted to put fuel in the truck or pay something, and I would not let him. Even if he gave me a ham sandwich this can be used to give me a ticket.

On a note about EDL, My brother in law drives a big rig in his own lumber business. He has a 1999 Peterbuilt and does not have to install the EDL equipment. The reason he is exempt is because of the age of the truck. Anything older then 2000 is exempt


That is incorrect. If you receive a prize, even if money, as long as it is deposited in a personal account, not a business account, you are not necessarily commercial. The determiining factor is if you are operating a business.

AllDodge 11-30-2017 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by sbracing (Post 4596640)
That is incorrect. If you receive a prize, even if money, as long as it is deposited in a personal account, not a business account, you are not necessarily commercial. The determiining factor is if you are operating a business.

Maybe in your state but not in KY. Checked with local enforcement on this, and this is why I mentioned it.

compedgemarine 11-30-2017 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by AllDodge (Post 4596641)
Maybe in your state but not in KY. Checked with local enforcement on this, and this is why I mentioned it.

I have been told by more than one DOT scale house operator that if you even receive a trophy that is considered compensation. when it comes down to it the law does not matter too much. what the DOT officer feels like writing you for matters. yes you can go and fight it but he will still write the ticket. the worst thing you can do is put any kind of name on your truck, even the name of your boat. as soon as the truck is lettered up they start looking at you.

sbracing 11-30-2017 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by AllDodge (Post 4596641)
Maybe in your state but not in KY. Checked with local enforcement on this, and this is why I mentioned it.

That is part of the problem.. I am quoting the federal standard. Each state should be following the Federal guidelines, I know in PA many in law enforcement are not up to date on the federal laws and have some creative interpretation.

payuppsucker 11-30-2017 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by sbracing (Post 4596704)
That is part of the problem.. I am quoting the federal standard. Each state should be following the Federal guidelines, I know in PA many in law enforcement are not up to date on the federal laws and have some creative interpretation.

Could not be more accurate. I have experienced this with several different states, but PA is definitely one of the worst.

Rik 11-30-2017 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by AllDodge (Post 4596641)
Maybe in your state but not in KY. Checked with local enforcement on this, and this is why I mentioned it.

What about farm tags on the truck and trailer??

boatfreak 11-30-2017 07:03 PM

Well I'm a farmer and run farm plates on all work trucks and my semi but not on my pickup that I tow the boat with. I don't want the headache of dealing with a cop in some state towing a 37 foot boat with farm plates. I will add I do have a loaded up cdl as I tested in when you could grandfather in.

compedgemarine 11-30-2017 07:21 PM

you saying you dont think the cop will believe you are headed out to plow the fields or herd the cattle with a Top Gun and blower motors?

boatfreak 11-30-2017 07:27 PM

Well I'm afraid I've had to feed my cows hay by boat before in a flood but I doubt I could convince a cop in some small town in Georgia that i was going to feed my cows while I was passing through "his town".

waycool marine 11-30-2017 07:36 PM

its my understanding - its not what the truck and boat actually weigh - its what the vin sticker says , when I took my class a test for my 650 with boat in tow , the dmv checked door/tounge sticker . before my license upgrade -I was stopped by a truck enforcement guy who told me also -goes by door sticker ,not the weight . door sticker on my 650 is gvw 26,000 I said that's crazy the truck weighs 12,000 where would you put 14,000 lbs in a pick up bed ?? he said it doesn't matter that's what the sticker says To solve my problem I got a class A non cdl , when I took the test the dmv told me the will be some truck enforcement officer who will take issue with this, my response was he would probably have an issue anyway ie. no log books or something else .

Boatlesss 11-30-2017 11:16 PM

Can a farm tag allow you to tow anything? Even across state lines?

Drock78 12-01-2017 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by Boatlesss (Post 4596847)
Can a farm tag allow you to tow anything? Even across state lines?

Yes but it is supposed to be farm related.

boatfreak 12-01-2017 06:33 AM

I don't believe the farm plates get you around anything either. I will also through out there that it's my understanding that regardless of what you are pulling or how you are plated if you are over 10,000 lbs you are to have a medical card. I doubt you will find that enforced much but I believe it's the law.

f311fr1 12-01-2017 09:00 PM

Don't forget to report to Homland Security every year if you have a CDL.


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