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dreamer 10-18-2002 03:50 PM

need info on 2002 cig mystique...
 
looking at a 02 cig mystique ( non step )... reliable power and goes 75... what are the pluses and minuses of this boat?
i've heard porpoising, small cockpit, expensive for what it is... what is the diff between 00,01,02 model years ex. layup, construction, layout? what would be a fair price for this boat...
02 mystique 496 HO loaded 70hrs.?

thanks

BODYSHOT1 10-18-2002 04:09 PM

A friend of mine had a 2000(?)straight V with 500's...ran great, but the cockpit is very tight behind the bolsters...almost impossible to stand-up...

He had it for sale for awhile & wound-up trading it in for an 02 TS Top Gun...

They aren't cheap! Good Luck...:D

IDRPSTF 10-18-2002 04:42 PM

I just sold an 02 Non step/No notch 30' to a man in Chicago. He and his son have had Fountain/Baja/and Sonics before this boat. The son called me frome the boat within the first 20 minutes of driving it and said it was the best boat he has ever driven. Heavy Ride (Welcome to Cigarettes) But still fast. (500EFI, XR Drives) Two days later the Dad called and said the same. Keep in mind these are not first time boat owners.
Dreamer: Are you looking at the Crayola Boat? Talking to Jeremy? If thats the boat and Broker, you are on the right track. If not Give me a buzz and Ill give you the right Numbers to dial. Good Luck!

cigarette1 10-18-2002 04:48 PM

Matt,

Was that the blue with red flames boat you sold. That is one beautiful piece. The Tiger that has the simular graphics is one of my favorite boats of all time.

G

IDRPSTF 10-18-2002 05:40 PM

That would be the one. I sold it about a month ago. The most expensive Mystique ever built. The guy that bought it wanted "THE BEST" and that is what we got him. For as much as I hunt deals every day for clients its fun to have someone call in asking for "The Best" I still got him that boat for a steel!!!

baja_daddy 10-18-2002 10:17 PM

I thought Enrique Iglesias hd the best Mystique ever built?? 95 mph on 575's built by Lip-Ship?? Just what I was told but I am sure that if I was looking for the best boat my dealer would have it on his lot too.....Just telling what I was told.

dreamer 10-18-2002 11:02 PM

idrpstf... yes thats the boat... my 28ss on trade ( sean's old 28ss ) + $$$... how much $$$ would be in the ball park?... does the 02 have more cockpit space? did they fix the porpoising? thanks ted

IDRPSTF 10-19-2002 05:19 PM

"Just what I was told but I am sure that if I was looking for the best boat my dealer would have it on his lot too.....Just telling what I was told."
Yes, Enrique Has the Fastest 30' with 575's, and Philly builds one hell of a boat. There are no questions about that. He took part in Building The one I sold. This boat on the other hand was a showpiece. House of Colors Purple/Blue Paint that that looked to be a different color in different light. Jagged Orange and Yellow flames. Full Padded Dash. Matching swim stem, drives,and oversized K-Planes with Gold Flake. Flame Carpit, Custom Hatch, Flame Painted Grab Rails and Dash Panels.
And for the record, when someone walks in and asks for "THE BEST!!!" I find it for them, wherever it is. I have flown to FL, AZ, PA, NV, WI, IL, this year alone to get my clients "THE BEST!!!"

Dreamer, Give me a call or Talk to Jeromy at Ugly Johns for the best deal on that boat. I have the matching 42 Tiger of both the Crayola that you are looking at and the 30' Mystique that I just sold on my lot. My suggestion with the porposing is to take it on a sea trail and see if you can live with it. Most straight Hull Cigs Porpose when its flat, but run like a Brick Sh#$%T house through the rough. As for the Cabin, it all depends how big you are. They are a little tight for the tall. But its still a BIG 30' Boat. Good Luck!

Havasu Cig 10-19-2002 06:03 PM

I can attest the to the Mystique that Matt sold. The boat was very trick. If I was in the market for a smaller Cig I would have bought that instead of the Top Gun!! The matching Tiger that they have at DSM is also a very nice boat.

baja_daddy 10-20-2002 04:05 AM

I did'nt mean to sound off but philly told me just the other day that he had the best Mystique ever built and followed that by a story about Enrique's boat. I currently own a 33 Outlaw but due to a possible divorce I am selling it. I am going to try and get another boat when the Outlaw sells. I have only owned Baja's from a 24'-33' and was thinking about getting a Mystique if I can find one in the $160k-$185k range. I have always wanted a Cigarette but the money was'nt there and I will soon have a few extra bucks to possibly get into one. Do you think this can be done or am I just dreaming???? Thanks for the help.....

cbdragon 10-20-2002 04:32 PM

You can find a bunch of Cigarette's in that price range. 30/35/or 38's, the model year 99 and 2000. cb

PANTERA LOVER 10-20-2002 05:54 PM

mystique is a great boat, but small back seat, lacking in cabin (cover girl) and not 2 fast compared to other boats of its class, but still a good boat. I used to ride on a friends lip-ship 30' mystique anniversary edition. cant stand in the back, ran high 60's with 2 496's. but overall a pretty good boat, but 4 my next boat i would be sold on a new lip-ship playboy 35'.

-good luck

XtremePowerboats.com 10-21-2002 08:58 AM

2003 cigarette 30 mystique
 
check out www.nationalmarine.com we have one in stock in that price range. call me at 330-369-6030 thanks joe la duca

IDRPSTF 10-21-2002 09:35 AM

Baja Daddy,
First off, please send me the Specs, Prices, and Pictures of your 33 Outlaw. I have a Midwest Buyer looking for a pre owned 33. Mabe we can play lets make a deal for a Cigarette. Or if Phill is your Broker we can work something through him.
"Best" is a relative term. Phill said his was the best. I said mine was the best. If it wasnt for compitition and opinion we would all still be driving Bayliners.

HMJudge 10-21-2002 04:59 PM

30 cig
 
Hi! give me a call they built 16 of them I have sold 7 of them, both bottoms.Harry Judge Offshore Performance 410 827 0097

Von Bongo 10-21-2002 08:34 PM

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Are you sure you wouldn't rather have a 28 Pantera? Plenty of room behind the bolsters and run 75+ with a singe 575 or 80+ with the Innovation 600 (at the prop). Runs 90+ with twin 500's. A lot more boat for the money, but I might be biased :D

Ricochet 10-21-2002 09:07 PM

Hey Dreamer.

What's the latest on your 28ss. Since I phoned you last week from Fort Wayne has anything changed? Am I reading correctly, is it still up for sale or did you already trade it in for the Mystique.

If it's still for sale, what's your price?

Ricochet.

mpally 10-21-2002 09:31 PM

Do you have any additional pictures of that 30?

Ricochet 10-21-2002 09:37 PM

WOW!!! I would agree the orange drives and tabs are a bit much, but WOW!!!

Ricochet.

Von Bongo 10-21-2002 09:44 PM

WOw, looks like someone vandalized those outdrives :D Not being critical, some people tink my paint is loud

I like the rest of the paint job though, I think maybe I would have gone with paining the drives and tabs to match the blue.


Raymonds at LOTO have a 02 with 377 scorps that they have had a while and may be willing to make a deal on. Put some whipples on it and you would have a nice ride

Indy 10-22-2002 06:54 AM

Thats a lot of $$$ to make your rear seat passengers uncomfortable :confused: and I'm a huge Cig fan.

klaw 10-22-2002 07:05 AM

The boat resides on the Chain of Lakes.

Brad 10-22-2002 07:43 AM

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I have a 2001 Playboy edition for sale! Bigger cockpit and roomy cabin! 500 EFI's XR Drive, 82-83 MPH

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forum/sh...threadid=34388

IDRPSTF 10-22-2002 01:38 PM

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Lets get this straight...Its a 76 Ford econoline with the pop-top camper shell and optional side bubble windows. One of the only ones around with factory Curb Feelers. If you dont recognize me buy the mural on the side, Ill fire off a honk with the La Cuka Racha Horn!!! It aint easy bein the #1 Boat Pimp, Its more than just a job...Its a lifestyle. WHen Im not driving the van you can see me here in front of the Boat Pimpmobile. Ha Ha! 105_38_2003 are you refurring to Larry? Damn nice guy(When you can get ahold of him!!!)

dreamer 10-22-2002 02:04 PM

ricochet,
the boat is still for sale and not winterized yet, so you better hurry because it looks like i have 2 possible deals pending on 30 foot mystiques, plus im still looking for the right 35 or 38... if it comes along

ted

SMOKIN TON 10-22-2002 03:35 PM

My Mystique
 
What's up everyone I see my boat has brought up a lot of attention(good and bad)!!! I own the BLUE and ORANGE mystique. In my personal opinion IT IS the best boat I have ever driven. Also MAtt is 100% true on everything he has told you about us. He was a great help to us and gave us 200% on his part to make the deal. Dreamer I would strongly advise this boat to you or anyone looking for a mystique. I would also like to here what stock boat is better than this one in it's class? I also believe this boat is faster than 75 m.p.h. (I've never tested it with GPS)

Tony


:D :D :D

WARPAINT 10-22-2002 03:50 PM

S 600 BENZ WIT DA V12 ! THAT CAR IZ DA SHIZNIT ! SUM DAY !

WARPAINT 10-22-2002 04:13 PM

S 600 BENZ WIT DA V12 ! THAT CAR IZ DA SHIZNIT ! SUM DAY !

WARPAINT 10-22-2002 04:15 PM

OOPS, I SLIPT!

timucin 10-22-2002 05:50 PM

idrpstf: nice pic.
:D

IDRPSTF 10-22-2002 06:20 PM

I got a call from our boy at about 3:00 Texas Time (Which for those of you who don’t know is actually BIGGER than 3:00 any other place) We have talked Tiger and Top Guns already and Ill get him whatever he wants. The main thing is that it is the best built. He stressed that whatever I have built has to be the best ever built. This should be fun!!! As for our new member Tony in IL. Lets all be on good behavior (Anyone ever seen Scarface???) I don’t believe that mystique has been named yet but it is the little sister of a 42 Tiger with the same paint named “Mind if I Smoke” My goal is to get Tony to bring it back to Cally for the DSM Big Water Poker Run next summer. Welcome to the board and Thank You for the kind words (Your check is in the mail!) And for the record, No thats not really me in front of the car...Im shorter!

Von Bongo 10-22-2002 10:23 PM

Re: My Mystique
 

Originally posted by SMOKIN TON
What's up everyone I see my boat has brought up a lot of attention(good and bad)!!! I own the BLUE and ORANGE mystique. In my personal opinion IT IS the best boat I have ever driven. Also MAtt is 100% true on everything he has told you about us. He was a great help to us and gave us 200% on his part to make the deal. Dreamer I would strongly advise this boat to you or anyone looking for a mystique. I would also like to here what stock boat is better than this one in it's class? I also believe this boat is faster than 75 m.p.h. (I've never tested it with GPS)

Tony


:D :D :D

Tony,

Let me welcome you to the board, that is a real nice boat. you should post a few more pictures when you get some time.

And I was right it was blue :p , Oh and it's time to get a GPS, inquiring minds always want to know.

IDRPSTF 10-23-2002 11:14 AM

Its Blue, Its Purple, Its Blue, Its Purple, Its Blue, Its Purple, Trying to tell someone over the phone the color of this boat makes a person sound like an Idiot!:D The Drives and Tabs are actually very nice in orange. They have Gold Flake in the paint to make them sparkle under water. It will be nice to have Tony post some "On the water" Pics next season.

SMOKIN TON 10-23-2002 05:12 PM

Thanks
 
Thanks guys for the welcome, I've got some more pics just have to figure out how to get them on here? I was also thinking since matt is such a nice guy:D instead of that check he owes me I'll get a GPS from him:rolleyes: ? Just kidding Matt I don't want any of that Cali surfing kung-fu from U. I promise to post some good in the water pics next year since my season is OVER:mad: .

C ya
Tony

IDRPSTF 10-23-2002 05:32 PM

Check? Check? Where is my Leather Cig Jacket? How am I suppose to look like Guiedo the Boat Pimp without my Leather Cigarette Jacket.


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