special permit needed to navigate in NY area?
 

friend of mine got arrested 2 years ago and got like a 1000 dollars something ticket because he did not have somekind of a special permit needed to navigate in this area... I'm not talking about the DTOPS decal for 30 + feet vessel, wich he had, and I also have. there is more than this that is apparently required

i googled it without any luck finding what I'm looking for...

Anyone familiar with this special permit? where to get info? so on and so forth?

Thanks!

Matt Trulio did an article back in November on ABC Permits, probably will have your answer and set you and/or your friend up in one call

http://www.abcpermitsllc.com/

https://speedonthewater.com/inthenew...liance-service

thanks i will read it again. but the article seems to talk about permet for boats ON TRAILER

I'm talking about permit IN WATER .

he had a baja 405, and i have a small sonic, 8.6 beam so no wide load permit needed on the road!

Misunderstood post... lol.:ernaehrung004:

in water permit other than registration? Never been hasseled.

still need info for IN WATER permit!

I've boated quite a bit through Long Island sound, inside the bay in Long Island, and a little upstate. Never heard of or had a problem with any type of permit.

OP is from Canada - so maybe a US Federal thing for the canadian's in US water ?

I've run around Manhattan many times, never bothered by any law enforcement. Never heard of any permit. You are referring to NYC correct or NY state in general. Also spent most of my life running around Long Island Sound, never hassled by anyone.

Jeff,
Would you please share details on the charge against your friend and the violation that incurred the fine? That would help narrow down exactly what type of permit you're looking for.

Ryan

Only way I can see someone being arrested is if he strayed into off-limit areas like near a Nuclear Power Plant or Military installation.

will dig that info! Thanks!

is this what you may be looking for...
New Requirement Jan 2016: CBP now requires ALL foreign-flagged yachts (including any registered under SVRS and LBO schemes) to obtain a Cruising License. Once issued, it is valid for up to one year (365 days from issue date). See Documents for more details.

Non-US flagged private yachts and non-commercial pleasure vessels under 300 gross tons do not have to report their arrival in advance. Yachts larger than 300 gross tons should contact US CBP prior to departing for the USA.

Foreign-flagged yachts (including Canadian ones, not in possession of a cruising license), are normally required to notify Customs (Homeland Security) when moving from one customs region to another, (i.e., from Ft Lauderdale to Miami). There are fines for vessels who do not comply. Often, vessels who report a few times will be deemed "secure" and will be instructed by the CBP official that further reporting is unnecessary until departure from the USA. See the Noonsite/USA reporting article for more information.

Note: There appears to be some confusion over whether this rule applies if the vessel has a cruising license. It is advisable to obtain a written copy of the procedure to be followed when initially clearing in or being issued with a cruising license. See Noonsite/USA/Documents for the list of countries whose boats are eligible for a cruising permit.

One thing to be aware of, is that the various states often interpret these federal regulations differently, or apply local rules to suit a local situation. If possible, contact the officials at your chosen Port of Entry in advance to check requirements. CBP officers are normally very helpful and will notify you of any updated laws or procedures.


found here... http://www.noonsite.com/Countries/USA?rc=Formalities

it might be it ! but man it is not so clear...

thanks by the way! I will read the wholle thing later tonight!

According to tis, it looks likeeven US boaters would need a cruising permit! But there is no link to fill in the right form!

Is it this.

CBP Decals:

All U.S. boats 30 feet in length or over must have a current decal. Once purchased, they are valid for 12 months.

Decals can now be bought online, follow the links from the Customs website. For more information go to https://dtops.cbp.dhs.gov

I only have title and NYS registration sticker . Live in nys. I do like going to the Canadian side though. Last time I went to shirkston a couple years back. We only needed to stop at buffalo canoe club to use the canadian land line. You have me wondering now if we need the same to go into canada.??

Well dam this sticker is for unlimited border crossings. Not expensive either. Great info!!!

no it is not! I already have this decal since... the last 4-5 years at least! And so did my friend who had the big ticket!

There is a safe boater education card you can get and also a card for boat inspected by Sheriff or coast guard for safety gear. Dont know of anything out of state. If your from canada you have to check in by land line with border . Your boat is already registered somewhere? Unless it has something to do with inspecting the boat to make sure no other species of fish, ect. gets introduced.

what was the ticket for. ??? I'm right near the border . You have everyone wondering what's up. I cant find anything but that sticker for frequent crossings. Unless you friend pissed them off somehow????? They do get on edge pretty quick if anybody gets smart. How much was the ticket.