I’d probaby have a better understanding and appreciation for the OL if I’d actually seen it and crawled around in it some. Heard the cabin is nice but not ever actually seen any pics.

I’m not bashing the OL at all just drawing a comparison from a value and versatility standpoint. It was my sincere interest in the SL 41 at American Custom that brought me to this conclusion. Simply not in the cards for me 😏

I think Pat said the 29 AT was in the 160-175 range? Out of my range but way less then OL prices. Yet I don’t think he built 1 or 2?

That's the pale blue one with 300's right? If memory serves me correctly, it was around the 170-175k then later, it was advertised briefly for 129k and then disappeared. (Presumably sold)

I thought at the time it was good value but may not be a sustainable price from the manufacturers pov. I think a lot of buyers look at a price and 'round it off' to a high/low price bracket, i.e. Low hundreds and high hundreds. Creates a huge difference in the buyers mind when it's closer to 100k than 200k.
My 2 cents,

I doff my cap to any manufacturer who offers sterndrive or outboard configuration of the. same boat.

RR

What is the price point for the top 5 or 6 manufacturers that are build the new wave of 32-36 ft. Outboard cats. MTI, DW, Skater,DCM. Fountain,OL ?

CRazy you could buy an exotic car for far less then a performance boat these days

All the new 32-36 OB 400 cats depending on how equipped and paint amount and trailer are going between 375-450k new. That is with a pair of 35k motors on the back.

I just looked up for giggles what a 18' open bow run about with a 3.0 liter engine was on boat show special. 29k! Nothing fancy at all just enough to get someone on water.

I get that it is alot of money, I wish it wasnt so.
All the new technology cost money, A new motor package of 1350 merc and drives is 180k each so a twin engine boat has got $360k just into motor and drives. Add in Garmins, all the wire and connectors needed to hook them up, add in a vessel view or 2, add in a fusion stereo and amps and speakers, DTS throttles, wiring harness, oil resevoir, sea strainers, blow off valves, on and on you got another 75-100k just in materials.
Now do a rig job for everything from front to back there is another 80-100k in labor
Put a nice alcentara interior in it and a cover in cockpit and cabin there is 30-45k pretty easy
Add anything to the Cabin up the $ more
Put a awesome paint job on it 75-100k
Your at 675-715k
You still gotta build a hull, now if its a carbon fiber or Epoxy boat that is even more money.
You still gotta build a nice trailer

a SV 43 with 1350's at 800-850K depending on how its optioned is easily attainable and if you disect it the manufacturer is not making a boat load of money.

You can always cut back on the options and cut back the fit and finish to save some money here and there but the typical OL customers are not typically looking to do that. You dont buy a Lamborghini for the price of a Ford.

All the boats are up there in price, because it cost that much to make them. MTI, OL, Skater. DCB
A new Baja 26' with SINGLE 502 60 mph boat on a trailer is $120k
A new 29 OL Far far superior in every way from materials used (epoxy) to fit and finish, to equipment on board, ride, speed, with a bigger motor (565) will run about 100 MPH and cost about 210 K depending on options and paint.

Whenever they start A new fountain 42 build with 1350's not loaded up is going to run I'd bet at least 750k+ to start

My buddy bought a demo top gun 10 years ago. Ran it 3 years and lost 100K in depreciation, probably another 100K in operational costs (fuel, insurance, maintenance). Figure 200K for 225-240 hours of use.

He started buying new Ferraris instead and has ordered and taken delivery of 5 so far, all 458 or 488 models. He lost 35K on a 488 hardtop, made 40K on an early 458 spyder, broke even on a 458 coupe (he kept it too long) and is "holding" a 458 speciale (thinks he should make 75-100K). The 488 spyder was a small profit but I can't remember how much.

Insurance is less than 2K a year! All brand new cars so no maintenance and plenty of warranty. He lives on the intracoastal so he looks at boats all day long but has ZERO interest in losing more money on a performance boat. He owned a Donzi and Pantera before the TG.

You have outlined retail costs on everything so I have to ask, when you built a high end boat do you really pay retail? I mentally couldn't sit down and write a full retail check especially knowing the dismal resale numbers that follow.

As far as rigging, can you really say it costs 80-100K for a week or two of parts installs? We regularly see on the forums how marine techs make no money, Performance Boat Center even ran an ad offering "up to $20 an hour." At a labor rate of 80K then that is $1000 an hour for 2 weeks. Rob just outlined his experience painting a 42 Tiger (big boat) with a well known painter and the job including repairs to the hull was 42K. I would think a brand new boat would have no repairs and be a perfect clean slate (therefore costing less). You quoted 75-100K

The tech might not make a lot doing it, but it sure isn't cheap to have the boat inside a heated shop with the lights on.

Haha. He got away cheap if he only lost 100K after 225-240 hours and 3 years. I always figure the new boat depreciates 50% in the first 5 years if you are putting 75-100 hours a year on them.