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Old 03-18-2018, 02:05 PM
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I think the Jack plates set motors back another 5-6"
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Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic
A 25" 250 hp Verado is 650 lbs.

A carbed, 25" 250 hp Ocean Pro is 450.

Times two.


verados have integrated power steering. 300hp 4 strokes with out it weigh 600ish lbs vs 500lbs for the 2 strokes.

merc also just came out with a 475lb 225hp 4 stroke.
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Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic
Thx again guys. Its been a fun ride.

Cary, I feel your pain
PS, a real 70 mph in a 30' boat is flying!

VT, I agree. That style boat has exploded on Lake Erie too. Those that have a cottage and dont need a cabin on their boat........, 30'+, center console.

For us econo guys, heres some old pixs of makin it happen on a budget.

This one started it all for me. '1969 19' Glastron Carslon. Huge cabin. Would sleep 4!


The first 24' Sonic. Towed by a virgin. '69 Polara rag top w/a 383.

The econo tow pigg. Lost a really well paying job and had to go into survival mode.
Sold most of the toys (the Polara and a '68 440 6 pack Super Bee) but kept the boat.
Wrote it off as attitude adjustment. How could I be expected to find another job w/a bad atttude?

Bought this van off e-bay for $500.
Had a smog 305 in it. I swapped in a 300 hp Jasper 350 off craigslist.
The manual said the motor wouldnt come out the drivers door.
They were wrong.
Installed a 3.73 posi, headers and had a custom bent dual exhaust built.
After re-selling old parts, I think I had $1500 in a killer tow pig, while unemployed


W/a small trailer boat on Lake Erie, you put the boat in the water about 50% of the time.
The rest of time we tow the boat/camper w/us, while bar hopping, ending in the boat, on the trailer while waiting on weather to break.
We closed the bar in the background and camped in the parking lot.

This was a fun one. A group of us w/small boats crossed Lake Erie to Leamington Ontario on far side of lake.
We got weathered in for 3 days.
Beginning of day #2 I awoke to calm winds and lake. Realized we had a 2 hr window of calm conditions first thing in morning.
Had a captains meeting to report my epiphany and vote to top off fuel, tie everything down and head south, butt crack of dawn, morning #3 for a 45 mile bonsai run for the US shoreline.
One captain agreed w/me.
The other 3 boats left PM, day #2, and straight into 8' to 10' waves. (a 42' Tiara left and came right back for shelter)
We watched our friends (21' - 25') form the breakwall. Was stupid and very dangerous.

The one remaining boat and I hopped the bus to town for a last day of fun.
We arose morning #3 to the hoped for calm weather. We hulled ass (60 mph) at terminal speed of boat #2 and headed south.
We pulled into breakfast at Kelleys Island (3 mls from mainland) the exact same time as the boats that left day before, into the **** storm.
They only made it to next island day before.

Ahh, the Catawba inn, I love that place lol.
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Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic
Thx again guys. Its been a fun ride.

Cary, I feel your pain
PS, a real 70 mph in a 30' boat is flying!

VT, I agree. That style boat has exploded on Lake Erie too. Those that have a cottage and dont need a cabin on their boat........, 30'+, center console.

For us econo guys, heres some old pixs of makin it happen on a budget.

This one started it all for me. '1969 19' Glastron Carslon. Huge cabin. Would sleep 4!


The first 24' Sonic. Towed by a virgin. '69 Polara rag top w/a 383.

The econo tow pigg. Lost a really well paying job and had to go into survival mode.
Sold most of the toys (the Polara and a '68 440 6 pack Super Bee) but kept the boat.
Wrote it off as attitude adjustment. How could I be expected to find another job w/a bad atttude?

Bought this van off e-bay for $500.
Had a smog 305 in it. I swapped in a 300 hp Jasper 350 off craigslist.
The manual said the motor wouldnt come out the drivers door.
They were wrong.
Installed a 3.73 posi, headers and had a custom bent dual exhaust built.
After re-selling old parts, I think I had $1500 in a killer tow pig, while unemployed


W/a small trailer boat on Lake Erie, you put the boat in the water about 50% of the time.
The rest of time we tow the boat/camper w/us, while bar hopping, ending in the boat, on the trailer while waiting on weather to break.
We closed the bar in the background and camped in the parking lot.

This was a fun one. A group of us w/small boats crossed Lake Erie to Leamington Ontario on far side of lake.
We got weathered in for 3 days.
Beginning of day #2 I awoke to calm winds and lake. Realized we had a 2 hr window of calm conditions first thing in morning.
Had a captains meeting to report my epiphany and vote to top off fuel, tie everything down and head south, butt crack of dawn, morning #3 for a 45 mile bonsai run for the US shoreline.
One captain agreed w/me.
The other 3 boats left PM, day #2, and straight into 8' to 10' waves. (a 42' Tiara left and came right back for shelter)
We watched our friends (21' - 25') form the breakwall. Was stupid and very dangerous.

The one remaining boat and I hopped the bus to town for a last day of fun.
We arose morning #3 to the hoped for calm weather. We hulled ass (60 mph) at terminal speed of boat #2 and headed south.
We pulled into breakfast at Kelleys Island (3 mls from mainland) the exact same time as the boats that left day before, into the **** storm.
They only made it to next island day before.

I wanna see some more pics of that glastron.... I dont think I have ever seen one of them. I was under the impression you had a Hydrostream with a cabin..

Jr.
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Originally Posted by hogie roll


verados have integrated power steering. 300hp 4 strokes with out it weigh 600ish lbs vs 500lbs for the 2 strokes.

merc also just came out with a 475lb 225hp 4 stroke.
Again, OMC Ocean Pro, V-6 carbureted 250's weigh 450.
An hr w/a die grinder and they make 300 hp's and still weigh 450.

Thats what OB back of my 2nd Sonic.
Built the motors from spare parts I collected.
i think I had $3K in the pair.
Counting paint and stickers.

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Originally Posted by bigboat28
Ahh, the Catawba inn, I love that place lol.
You probably know they have a free shuttle??
We take it from Gen Beach.

Had my brother up and out for a drive one weekend when he needed a pee break, right by the Catawba Inn.
Asked if he cared about the restroom and he said no.

Came out shaking his head and saying it was the worst restroom he'd ever been in.

Reminded him that I asked 😉
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Originally Posted by J-Bonz
I wanna see some more pics of that glastron.... I dont think I have ever seen one of them. I was under the impression you had a Hydrostream with a cabin..

Jr.
Very, very rare boat. Only built two yrs and only seen on other.
Dont have many pixs left.

Was totaled in a fire when I bought it.
Drove bye it for yrs before coming up for sale.
My 70 yr old parents sewed the interior for it.

Put a '86 XP 2.6 (235) Evinrude on it, totaled in another fire.
Ran a best of 70, indicated. Before GPS.
This would have been about '1987.

Came back from the Bay one trip w/two hung over buddies when we passed a 35' Cigarette going the other away in Sandusky Bay.
My buddies just shook their heads knowing what was going to happen.

I spun it around, chased them down, jumped their wake and passed them.
Never forget the look in the drivers eyes after the copilot got his attention and pointed at us.
Looked like he just saw Jesus.

When we got to the ramp, we opened the cabin and everything had dumped on the unmade bed.
Including a cooler full of empty beer cans, melted ice and a container of night crawlers 😉

Youre re thinking of my 21' Lazer that replaced that boat.
10 mph faster in the smooth w/half the cabin and freeboard.
Still made it to Leaminton and back.
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Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic


Again, OMC Ocean Pro, V-6 carbureted 250's weigh 450.
An hr w/a die grinder and they make 300 hp's and still weigh 450.

Thats what OB back of my 2nd Sonic.
Built the motors from spare parts I collected.
i think I had $3K in the pair.
Counting paint and stickers.
thats dirt cheap
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Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic

Very, very rare boat. Only built two yrs and only seen on other.
Dont have many pixs left.

Was totaled in a fire when I bought it.
Drove bye it for yrs before coming up for sale.
My 70 yr old parents sewed the interior for it.

Put a '86 XP 2.6 (235) Evinrude on it, totaled in another fire.
Ran a best of 70, indicated. Before GPS.
This would have been about '1987.

Came back from the Bay one trip w/two hung over buddies when we passed a 35' Cigarette going the other away in Sandusky Bay.
My buddies just shook their heads knowing what was going to happen.

I spun it around, chased them down, jumped their wake and passed them.
Never forget the look in the drivers eyes after the copilot got his attention and pointed at us.
Looked like he just saw Jesus.

When we got to the ramp, we opened the cabin and everything had dumped on the unmade bed.
Including a cooler full of empty beer cans, melted ice and a container of night crawlers 😉

Youre re thinking of my 21' Lazer that replaced that boat.
10 mph faster in the smooth w/half the cabin and freeboard.
Still made it to Leaminton and back.
Awesome Story!!! What a fun ride back. I think your right. I must have thinking about the Lazer. Never the less, I can’t wait to read more stories on your new adventures to come...
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Blah, blah, blah 2 stroke this, 4 stroke that - Dude just promise to keep that scoop on the hatch. Priceless! Great looking boat and I admire your practicality, determination and capabilities.

PS Your math skills are pretty good also! LOL
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