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Matt Trulio 03-09-2018 04:58 PM

Offshore Racing’s Unlimited Class Unified To Decrease Power For 2019 Season
 
Big news from the most high-powered class in offshore powerboat racing, https://speedonthewater.com/in-the-n...or-2019-season.

AB From Windsor 03-09-2018 05:22 PM

As a race fan, the most important thing to me is the safety of the racers and I think that by reducing the power they will achieve that goal. I also believe that by reducing the power it will reduce the cost and increase the reliability and hopefully those changes may bring more racers into the sport in the future.

speicher lane 03-09-2018 06:23 PM

^^^ Granted but its a bracket class - there is NOTHING unlimited about unlimited class running 1100's... its a new version of 750 and 850 Superboat (cat)

Crazy that Poker Runs (that are not a Race) will be the Unlimited Class in offshore "boating"

Strictly IMHO

sbracing 03-09-2018 06:35 PM

It isn't a bracket class, spec engine class maybe....Makes a lot of sense. The show is good close racing, not who has the biggest engine. Let the poker run guys have the ego trip.....

X-rated 03-09-2018 07:13 PM

I guess they'll have to change the name of it????

precisiondetails 03-09-2018 07:35 PM

Great idea. It’s about time! Good job boys.

klaatutooyou 03-09-2018 08:46 PM

So Unlimited is limited .

Im ok with it . I miss keith and bob and etc.

But you have to come up with a new designation right ?

speicher lane 03-09-2018 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by sbracing (Post 4615047)
It isn't a bracket class, spec engine class maybe......

Correct - TY.

speicher lane 03-09-2018 08:55 PM

So is this the beginning of the end of Merc Racing's advancements in technology/design except in the Verado's?

Pushing the power led to the advancements in technology - racing 1100's is still going to be racing but attrition set the greats from the fields... and 1100's will still grenade under max loads - maybe a bit longer life but...

phragle 03-09-2018 09:51 PM

So the "un" is out.........

sbracing 03-10-2018 06:39 AM

In my opinion, the class is not sustainable. Overly expensive and unreliable engines with limited participants make for a short life. This is a good step to keep the class going. It is all about good racing.

glassdave 03-10-2018 07:44 AM

ive always thought the unlimited "run what ya brung" racing pretty boring to watch. Sure they are some pretty awesome boats but most times its just a matter of staying running long enough to finish in a two or three boat field or their is such a spread between mismatched boats its over in one or two laps. i'm not trying to knock the effort those guys have put in, there really is some amazing hardware. It just gets boring when the fleet spreads out and theres ten laps left. Spec class has always been the best, closest racing . . . . just my .02 cents :cool:

sounds like a great move by the class and it is most certainly NOT bracket racing. Its standardizing the driveline to achieve some parity . . . .

TeamSaris 03-10-2018 08:08 AM

Good move!

PigNaPoke 03-10-2018 09:28 AM

I was just having this discussion last night... unlimited is awesome to watch but they break alot. Main reason supercat and v lite are my favorite classes... they usually run the whole race. Side by side.

the class instigator and twisted metal are in is also amazing, but need more boat count.

This is a ball-sy proposition, very likely may drive people away. Top fuel lost a TON of fans once they went to 1000'.

Looking forward to the outcome.

Interceptor 03-10-2018 11:08 AM

If no one announced the change I'm betting most spectators wouldn't notice the difference in speed.

klaatutooyou 03-10-2018 11:14 AM

Why not just run supercat 750 ?then there would be an xtra 8 boats.

18 boats in supercat suberboat whatever sounds awesome.

Of course it means obeying rules which just doesn't sit right with some .

JIMKID Motorsports 03-10-2018 11:17 AM

What about the other engine builders that can provide reliable 1100 hp like sterling scorpion v 16

tomcat 03-10-2018 11:33 AM

What Jim said...

I can't blame the team owners for wanting to get off the blown engine merry go round, but why is this being proposed as Mercury only? I can imagine someone like Billy Mauff moving up to this class, and Sterling is quite capable of building him 1100 HP engines. Competition between engine builders is part of the appeal of racing, just as much as Skater vs. MTI.

speicher lane 03-10-2018 01:22 PM

I guess technically, If they would permit diesels. Tyson could run his 50 and be a contender... then run to the outer islands after the World's

Does anyone know how many grenades Bob Bull's teams have encountered with the QCV4's (not electrical/sensor issues)?

mickeymcclgn 03-10-2018 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by speicher lane (Post 4615189)

Does anyone know how many grenades Bob Bull's teams have encountered with the QCV4's (not electrical/sensor issues)?

Not sure on the amount of failures but he brings a set for every race while in kw. And in 15 he had a set in for testing Thursday didn’t like the way they felt and put in another set for the race on Friday.

Hustler40 03-11-2018 04:36 AM

Awesome ! Provide some parity for the class and it will make for better closer Racing. I don’t know of any other form of Motorsport that has a truely unlimited motor class. Even top fuel drag racing has cubic inch, weight, fuel limits etc on 10,000 hp motors. Constraints are necessary for actual competition.

hogie roll 03-11-2018 09:39 AM

But who’s going to be first to drop them in a 368?

JIMKID Motorsports 03-11-2018 09:45 AM

One thing for sure they need to put a minimum boat length on it so at a flat race sombody doesent bring in small boat over powered

speicher lane 03-11-2018 11:51 AM

It could be interesting racing - Overseas FIA Class 1 is only 850hp in the same hull lengths.

Super cat and similar are limited to max 42' depending on association.. unlimited was generally 40'+

Cash Bar 03-11-2018 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by hogie roll (Post 4615306)
But who’s going to be first to drop them in a 368?

In progress on a new 368

hogie roll 03-11-2018 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by Cash Bar (Post 4615333)
In progress on a new 368

Well it will be more reliable but likely not any safer

JIMKID Motorsports 03-11-2018 05:13 PM

and will be illegal to small

Cash Bar 03-11-2018 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by JIMKID Motorsports (Post 4615378)
and will be illegal to small

I think we all know that doesn't work in Unlimited class.

I stand corrected.

hogie roll 03-11-2018 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by Cash Bar (Post 4615398)
He didn't ask if it was an Unlimited race boat. He asked if any 368s were going to 1100s. I think we all know that doesn't work in Unlimited class.

nope I meant for unlimited. Is there a boat size rule?

oactivator 03-11-2018 08:50 PM

Size regulations:
40’ - 55’ cat hull
42’ - 55’ vee hull

ITS GONNA BE GREAT FOR CLASS, I THINK IT WILL GROW CLASS SIZE. BOATS WILL STILL BE AWSOME AND FAST!!! :boat:

klaatutooyou 03-11-2018 09:34 PM

limited

caseyh 03-12-2018 12:16 PM

Crazy that Poker Runs (that are not a Race) will be the Unlimited Class in offshore "boating"

Strictly IMHO[/QUOTE]

and that's a problem.......

800modracer 03-12-2018 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by JIMKID Motorsports (Post 4615166)
What about the other engine builders that can provide reliable 1100 hp like sterling scorpion v 16

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