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BBYSTWY 04-26-2018 11:08 PM

Staggered #6 boats
 
What's out there with this criteria...fountain is out...just cant get over the left hand controls...I have a feeling that a new boat is gonna be on my horizon at some point and would like to get a feel of whats out there in a staggered 6 configuration...speed isn't a huge priority but rough water capability is along with being under 40 ft....are there any that fit the bill for this?? Doesn't have to be staggered I guess but would prefer it and would prefer it to be under 100k...does this boat exist??

thanks

Griff 04-27-2018 12:34 AM

Under 100k for any SSM6 boat is few and far between and for sure they will be wet sump 6's.

BBYSTWY 04-27-2018 01:12 AM

I kinda figured that but wanted to see if it was possible...being I’m a noob to 6’s is it bad if they are wet sumps?? I know not the newest technology but they have to be better than a bravo based drive right??

glassdave 04-27-2018 06:45 AM

nothing at all wrong with wet sump sixes other then they rob some HP,

apex svt 04-27-2018 06:57 AM

Going to be very difficult to find that setup. Most will have xr’s. Better off trying to find an Arneson boat in that price range.

SecondWind 04-27-2018 07:11 AM

Not staggered but this is under 40 feet w/ number six drives. Sharp looking boat. Looks like a fun Poker Run boat. Make an offer under a 100K and see where it goes.

2000 Hustler 388 Slingshot Poker Run Edition powerboat for sale in Vermont

JRider 04-27-2018 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by SecondWind (Post 4623655)
Not staggered but this is under 40 feet w/ number six drives. Sharp looking boat. Looks like a fun Poker Run boat. Make an offer under a 100K and see where it goes.

2000 Hustler 388 Slingshot Poker Run Edition powerboat for sale in Vermont

Nothing wrong with a non-staggered boat either, staggered fly better, and stay hooked up a little better in rougher water, but you wouldnt be racing it. Staggered are also easier to work on.

Wildman_grafix 04-27-2018 08:41 AM

Under 40 feet and staggered, no fountains and number six drives for under 100K. That isn't going to be easy, in pleasure boats I think OL did some staggered 37's.

Not sure who else did any pleasure boats under 40?

thisistank 04-27-2018 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by BBYSTWY (Post 4623627)
What's out there with this criteria...fountain is out...just cant get over the left hand controls...I have a feeling that a new boat is gonna be on my horizon at some point and would like to get a feel of whats out there in a staggered 6 configuration...speed isn't a huge priority but rough water capability is along with being under 40 ft....are there any that fit the bill for this?? Doesn't have to be staggered I guess but would prefer it and would prefer it to be under 100k...does this boat exist??

thanks

No, not if you want something in decent shape.

Something that needs work, yes. Ruckus (38 Top Gun) is for sale for 85k with Pfaff 1000's and 6's but it's super rough. There was a super nice looking all white apache in LOTO for just over 100, but its a 41.

bck 04-27-2018 11:21 AM

Did the ZR and ZRC come with six's ?

c0ncEpT 04-27-2018 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by bck (Post 4623697)
Did the ZR and ZRC come with six's ?

I'm not sure about the ZRC but a lot of ZR's have NXT's

benjen 04-27-2018 05:12 PM

I know where there is a Sutphen..............

bck 04-27-2018 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by c0ncEpT (Post 4623701)
I'm not sure about the ZRC but a lot of ZR's have NXT's

They'd be at the top of my list even without a six

Griff 04-28-2018 01:07 AM

1989 41 Apache with the add on step bottom is listed at 90K on Facebook sites with wet 6's
1990 41 Apache clean and fresh 1000's with SSM3's listed at 125k on Facebook by Andy Copeland

BBYSTWY 04-28-2018 06:32 PM

I looked at that hustler several times and was told that it sold...I have been looking at that apache for sale here the 33..I think it has konrads on it which I know nothing about

If I were to find say like a top gun or apache or even a hustler with 8-900 hp a side with imcos on it...would that be as worry free as 6's?? The next one I buy will have some kind of good drive platform first and foremost that's why I said 6's...but if there are other comparable setups that will be nearly as worry free I may consider it...I only have experience with loads of bravo failures being a seasoned boat mechanic but never had much experience with imcos or konrads or 6's...we didn't have those kinds of clients where I worked...I did work on one staggered apache with 6's but just general maintenance and it was so nice to work on it is what had me sold on staggered

This will be a general pleasure use boat with poker runs/fun runs mixed in if that changes anything??

Thanks for all the replies guys!!

BBYSTWY 04-28-2018 06:39 PM

Could also throw another monkey wrench into this...is there such a thing as right hand control conversions on fountains?? I'm not anti fountain as they are one of the most well known companies out there and their designs seem to be proven but that left hand control is where they lose me...also in say lake Michigan random 3-4's with a big chop in between will a fountain handle that like a cig or apache for instance??

ToMorrow44 04-28-2018 08:08 PM

Staggered #6s, right hand controls, under $100k. I've heard this boat is immaculate. Its a 42, but take away the beak and swim step...?
https://www.offshoreonly.com/classif...sc-o72281.html

BBYSTWY 04-28-2018 08:31 PM

hmmm its def worth looking into thanks!!!

Bostonirish 04-29-2018 07:41 AM

That fountain looks clean !! Sharp looking

Tom A. 04-29-2018 01:34 PM

As far as the Donzi Zrcs go:

Only 2 Zrc's came out of the factory with #6 drives, both were 1075 boats (one 2 step and and one 4 step). There was one converted to #6 drives and a few built with or converted to Arnesons.

That said, a Bravo Zrc will handle 600+ HP and if you update them to Imco SCs, you are good to 800+.

With 600hp, you will see 100mph, 700hp = 110, 800hp = 120, etc. - My understanding is the 1075 boats ran 135 with room to go but became a handful any faster.

Tom A. 04-29-2018 01:45 PM

Here are a few cool boats in NJ. Slightly off all your requirements but interesting and super clean.

Used 2005 Sutphen Ocean Racer 40ft Power Performance V Bottom 40ft Power Performance V Bottom

Used 1989 Apache 41' Ocean Racer "Only Rumors" 41ft Power Performance V Bottom 41ft Power Performance V Bottom

https://www.cotymarine.com/inventory...08753-2112645i

Used 2009 Donzi 35 ZR Ltd 009 Limited Edition 35ft Power Performance V Bottom 35ft Power Performance V Bottom

snapmorgan 04-29-2018 04:11 PM

Left hand controls
 
Unless you are missing your left arm, I wouldn't let that bother me. I bought a boat with left hand controls 6 years ago and after 5 minutes of running it, it never even entered my mind again that it was left handed

BBYSTWY 04-29-2018 06:30 PM

I love that TKO boat and the apache is def intriguing!! Thanks for the links!! Snap...I would have to drive one but I'm right handed and I just feel that it would be severely unnatural to drive with my left hand...idk never driven one so just speculating here but I guess until I get behind the wheel of one I wont really know

I am very intrigued with a 388 hustler that's actually within an hour or so from me...it has 800sc's with #5 drives...anyone have experience with 5's?? never even seen one in person so no experience with them at all...I'm assuming parts may be hard to find if I were to ever need any..any other issues with them??

thanks

thedonz 05-01-2018 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by BBYSTWY (Post 4623965)
I am very intrigued with a 388 hustler that's actually within an hour or so from me...it has 800sc's with #5 drives...anyone have experience with 5's?? never even seen one in person so no experience with them at all...I'm assuming parts may be hard to find if I were to ever need any..any other issues with them??

thanks

I raced a staggered Top Gun for years with blower motors detuned to 850 hp and #5 drives. Never had a problem with the drives. I love them. They are bullet proof at that hp rating and are faster than #6 drives.

BBYSTWY 05-01-2018 06:10 PM

good info!! thanks for the input!!


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