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Old 05-14-2018, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix
It’s says on the hauling companies letter head, what if it is a private person?
This is what I thought was well. Companies for hire have to do this. I'm not filling out a route survey every time I take my boat to the ramp.
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According to the Florida DOT - you can self-permit on-line...

Florida Department of Transportation - Office of Maintenance Bridge Information

I can't find any distinction between a private or commercial hauler?
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Originally Posted by omerta one
According to the Florida DOT - you can self-permit on-line...

Florida Department of Transportation - Office of Maintenance Bridge Information

I can't find any distinction between a private or commercial hauler?
So I called the FDOT and they did indicate that a private hauler will need a permit for anything over 8'-6" wide and sent me the following info:Thank you for contacting the Florida Permits Office. Permits can only be applied for online, in-person, or by mail. No email, fax, or telephone applications are accepted. Customers may SELF-ISSUE Trip Permits using the Permit Application System (PAS) for loads up to 16 feet wide, 18 feet high, 150 feet long and 200,000 pounds (140,000 pounds for self-propelled equipment) and Vehicle Specific Blanket Permits for loads up to 14 feet wide, 18 feet high, 120 feet long and 199,000 pounds. This means that no interaction with the Permit Office is required.

FDOT offers the following permits:
  • Trip Permit – Allows a single trip on a single route. A single trip is from a single point to a destination with NO deliveries/pickup between the two points. Trip permits can be the original, faxed, email copy, or displayed electronically by the driver on a phone, tablet, or other electronic device. Trip permits are valid for ten (10) days from the start date and all sales are final, no amendments or refunds.
  • Blanket Permit – Allows unlimited trips on designated roads/highways and is not assigned to a specific vehicle. The original blanket permit printed on FDOT goldenrod paper with the FDOT logo must be on board the permitted vehicle to be valid, no photocopies. Blanket permits are mailed to the permittee or picked up in person and are valid for twelve (12) months from the start date. Refunds are only considered when the original permit is returned within thirty (30) days of issuance.
  • Vehicle Specific Blanket Permit – Is the same as a blanket permit except it is assigned to a specific vehicle. The Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) of the power unit utilizing the permit is required on the application and the permit is only valid for that power unit. The VIN number will be printed on the permit. Vehicle specific blanket permits can be the original, faxed, email copy, or displayed electronically by the driver on a phone, tablet, or other electronic device. Vehicle specific blanket permits are valid for twelve (12) months from the start date and all sales are final, no amendments or refunds.
  • Route Specific Blanket Permit – Is reserved for loads that exceed the size or weight criteria for a regular blanket permit. This permit allows for unlimited trips on a specific route for a specific vehicle configuration. Additional permit restrictions such as law enforcement escorts may be required. The application review process may take up to ten (10) business days. A Letter of Essentiality is required at the time of submission of the application. The original permit must be on board the permitted vehicle to be valid, no photocopies. Route specific blanket permits are mailed to the permittee or picked up in person. Route specific blanket permits are valid for three (3) months and all sales are final, no amendments or refunds.
Florida Permits Office contact information: Phone 850-410-5777 Mailing Address: Overnight Address: Florida Department of Transportation Florida Department of Transportation 605 Suwannee St., MS 62 2740 Centerview Drive, Suite 1-C Tallahassee, Florida 32399 Tallahassee, Florida 32301

Make checks payable to: Brandt OWOD

ROUTING DISCLAIMER: The Department does NOT analyze any routes for oversize loads (height, width, and length). The Department does NOT analyze routes or issue permits for travel on local roadways/bridges. The hauler is responsible for ensuring oversize clearances on route and for obtaining approval for travel on local roadways/bridges prior to movement.
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Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
This has no chance of being enforced! If over 8'6 wide or 13'6 ft high means every center console or cruiser on a dual axle trailer (or more) would be in violation. I only say dual axle because it rules out the smaller boats that would be fine.

So if FHP (DOT merged with them a few years back) sat at the top of the FL keys at the start of Memorial Day weekend then every boat past about 27 ft would be in violation. Spectacular idea BTW if since this is the first major summer holiday after the hurricane last year.
You bring up an interesting point. The route survey requirement for Florida is fairly new new—less than two months old. In fact, it's so new that all law enforcement officials may not be aware of it and may not cite a hauler (if pulled over) lacking that documentation. However, and this comes from Jen Law of ABC Permits—I called her for additional clarification—who spoke to not one but two (Including a supervisor) Florida DOT representatives this morning, if the hauler is involved in an accident, let's say he hits a bridge, the state WILL request his route survey in legal proceedings. I'm not a lawyer, but I think that lacking the documentation could be a problem in that scenario.

People will do what they will do. Regardless, it's worthwhile to be aware of the law. After that? Caveat emptor.

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I applied and have a FL blanket trip permit. Was easy and cost basically not much for the year.
Received it in a few days. May need to look into the latest though
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Originally Posted by Double Rigged
I applied and have a FL blanket trip permit. Was easy and cost basically not much for the year.
Received it in a few days. May need to look into the latest though

You’re never going to meet Dirty Lyle following the rules, man.

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I live in Florida and in late 2015 when I purchased my boat I and before the route survey mandate; I first researched the transport laws. I purposely bought a vessel at 8'-6" wide as to not overshoot the max width requiring a permit to transport at that time For some reason I attract law enforcement when I'm abiding by the book as it is, don't need the headache. Now I'm doubly glad I'm at 8'-6".

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Originally Posted by Tom A.
That is good to hear for us private guys who tow ourselves.

Just to be safe, I would print a copy of that email and throw it in the glove box.
i can now confirm the first person I spoke to gave bad information and that I do need an overwidth permit. Did it online and got an annual permit printed out to keep in the truck.
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