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Blueabyss 06-28-2018 01:51 PM

Sunsation 32 Innovator
 
Too Cool or Too Goofy?

2006 Sunsation Innovator powerboat for sale in Michigan


Chris

Knot 4 Me 06-28-2018 02:03 PM

I spent some time in the first one delivered. Did the Sunsation Rally in it. Had 500 EFI's and was a beast. The interior layout is fine while running. On anchor or at the dock it can be a bit cumbersome in terms of cabin access. The soft touch button pads can be an issue if they can no longer be sourced and not sure if all the dash mechanisms can still be had if something breaks. This was developed when Dave Moriarty (sp?) was at Sunny and he is long since gone. He was the brains behind the dash. .

payuppsucker 06-28-2018 02:14 PM

I think it'd be a cool boat...........

Baja Rooster 06-28-2018 02:25 PM

Cool boat, but how do us chubbies get from the back seat to the cabin? If you’re either wide open or parked it looks to be a good design.

Jupiter Sunsation 06-28-2018 03:22 PM

Rare boat but I wouldn't want one.

Think they only made about 8-10 of them. There was a 525 boat out there and the first one was not a step bottom but was like a test mule. I think one was lost in an accident.

Knot 4 Me 06-28-2018 03:28 PM

The first one was a step bottom and was never released to Frank who was working with Wayne/Joe and bringing it to market. It was a large, single step hull with a rounded keel. Wayne ran it in one of the rallies (wouldn't let Frank drive it as it was too unpredictable in handling) and it never saw production. The first production boat released to Frank was the twin step that all released to the public were (and the S/SS/SSR's to follow).

If parts for the dash can still be sourced (call the factory) I wouldn't hesitate to buy one.

Powerquest230 06-28-2018 07:38 PM

Nice looking boat!! That cockpit would be too tight and unusable for my taste, wouldn't be bad when running but hard moving around and accessing the cabin. Look at a typical 32 cockpit like my 32 Velocity (in OSO can classified) to see how much room there is .

Relaxing 06-28-2018 08:37 PM

Dave Moriarty is back working at Sunsation. Hes been back since January 2017. If you have any questions on this model, call the factory and ask for him. Im sure he would be willing to answer any questions you have. It was a cool model and its a shame it didnt take off.

ben 06-29-2018 08:08 AM

I like it, although I never use my cabin so that's not a big deal to me.

BUP 06-29-2018 10:10 AM

Always wondered about the 32 for balance with big blocks especially 496 s. The 32 is not even 32 ft long. The swim platform is long inwhich shortens the bottom running length even more. IMO rough water with heavy big blocks for a very small 32 might not be as good with engines alot less weight ? Just wondering if anyone ever did a 32 with LS engines and really lighten up the back ?

fasthawk6 06-29-2018 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4634924)
Always wondered about the 32 for balance with big blocks especially 496 s. The 32 is not even 32 ft long. The swim platform is long inwhich shortens the bottom running length even more. IMO rough water with heavy big blocks for a very small 32 might not be as good with engines alot less weight ? Just wondering if anyone ever did a 32 with LS engines and really lighten up the back ?

I think the balance is fine with the ss hull, They will run right with most 35's and ride better than others.

Tractionless 06-29-2018 09:35 PM

Cool lifting helm, until someone needs to get into or out of the cabin while under way.

rak rua 06-29-2018 09:43 PM

Looks great but honestly, what were they thinking?
If you don't use the cabin then it's fine so why did they build a nice full cabin? Theres no point having a cabin if access is so poor.

Keep looking for a conventional layout, that one is "Too Goofy".

RR





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Blueabyss 06-30-2018 06:22 AM

Looks like its a love or hate it style. With the doors closed it looks really cool. I offered the guy what I thought was fair money for it and he said he would get back with me. Said He had a few people looking at it. I told him I had the money and did not need to get a loan so we will see what happens.

Chris

Padraig 06-30-2018 07:28 AM

I like it. Cockpit is somewhat cramped but 99.9% of the time it is just my wife and me. On the plus side it appears to be a nice deep cockpit.

Padraig

rak rua 06-30-2018 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by Blueabyss (Post 4635059)
Looks like its a love or hate it style. With the doors closed it looks really cool. I offered the guy what I thought was fair money for it and he said he would get back with me. Said He had a few people looking at it. I told him I had the money and did not need to get a loan so we will see what happens.

Chris

Good luck Chris, hopefully he comes back to you with good news.
I'm sure that layout would eliminate a few potential buyers but if it suits you, then that's great. Don't forget, it may also knock out a few buyers down the track when you want to sell. It looks very sharp but it's not for everybody.

RR





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TylerBurich 06-30-2018 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4634924)
Always wondered about the 32 for balance with big blocks especially 496 s. The 32 is not even 32 ft long. The swim platform is long inwhich shortens the bottom running length even more. IMO rough water with heavy big blocks for a very small 32 might not be as good with engines alot less weight ? Just wondering if anyone ever did a 32 with LS engines and really lighten up the back ?

When tied up to a 32 Sunny our 311 appears much longer. Tyler Crockett did a 32 with small block nascar engines, I believe it ran very well but he would have to comment on the handling.

Knot 4 Me 07-02-2018 08:54 AM

32's, both the old Dominator (non-stepped) and the newer 32 S/SS/SSR's have been built with 6.2L's from the factory. Teague liked the balance of the boat better with the small blocks but I've ran hard in big water in both hull types with big blocks and the boats fly level.

Didn't know Dave was back with Sunny. That is good news.

The cockpit on this boat is no different in size than any other 32 Sunny. You just have the center mounted seats vs. split bolsters. Once both sides of the dash are opened, it is actually easier to access the cabin than with the single sliding door.

Sydwayz 07-02-2018 09:22 AM

As mentioned, there have been several different 32' Sunsation models, so you have to make sure you compare apples to apples. There were several 32' Sunsations Dominator SINGLE BBC based boats that were legal for Factory 1 racing back in the day. The 32' Innovator was the first one with the deeper hull. Eventually, the 32' Dominator (short transom) was phased out, and the "SS" was born, with the older Dominator-like deck, on top of the SS deep hull. Then the XRT and some other deck changes were options, but the hull from the Innovator is what stuck.


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