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Out There 08-21-2018 07:15 PM

Desired Engine Temp 588 CI 1271 8 lbs Boost
 
So, what would be the optimal operating temps for oil and water? I have a three stage Stainless Marine Water pump. One stage to the intercooler and two to the engine. No thermostat. I am installing new Oil and Water Temp gauges this weekend and testing to be certain what I am seeing is accurate. Not much water temp on old gauge if any. Over 4000 rpms seeing maybe 160 on oil temp on old gauge. No noticeable water in the oil yet. Carbs sometimes sweat.
Water pressure is 10 -15 lbs in Sea Strainer and a few lbs at idle and 15 or so running.

I am having a hard time thinking I should be seeing more temp in the engine. I have three sources that I respect saying I'm good as long as the condensation burns out of the oil. What are your thoughts gentlemen on the cool temps?

Nice Pair 08-21-2018 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by Out There (Post 4645067)
So, what would be the optimal operating temps for oil and water? I have a three stage Stainless Marine Water pump. One stage to the intercooler and two to the engine. No thermostat. I am installing new Oil and Water Temp gauges this weekend and testing to be certain what I am seeing is accurate. Not much water temp on old gauge if any. Over 4000 rpms seeing maybe 160 on oil temp on old gauge. No noticeable water in the oil yet. Carbs sometimes sweat.
Water pressure is 10 -15 lbs in Sea Strainer and a few lbs at idle and 15 or so running.

I am having a hard time thinking I should be seeing more temp in the engine. I have three sources that I respect saying I'm good as long as the condensation burns out of the oil. What are your thoughts gentlemen on the cool temps?

Sounds like good info, we're running a blown 588 and I've always been nervous about condensation in the oil. We're running a thermostatic oil filter adapter on the front of the motor. (maintains 180/200 on oil temp) I'll try and remember to chase my water down, I believe i'm running thru the exh. manifolds then motor to preheat the water.
Sounds like a nice rig.

ICDEDPPL 08-21-2018 07:27 PM

100ish* water (gauges hardly move off 100) 150* oil after cooler , 180* in the pan here. All good.

Out There 08-22-2018 07:30 AM

Thanks for the responses guys. Looking forward to this weekend with new gauges but I don't really expect to see higher temps. Just hope to! :D

bobkatz 08-22-2018 10:11 AM

How does the water leave the oil under 212 degrees? Not sarcastic just curious.

ToMorrow44 08-22-2018 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by bobkatz (Post 4645169)
How does the water leave the oil under 212 degrees? Not sarcastic just curious.

water will steam out of the oil at less that boiling temp. Like when you have a pot of water on the stove, it’ll begin to steam long before it actually boils.

justfishing 08-22-2018 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by ToMorrow44 (Post 4645203)

water will steam out of the oil at less that boiling temp. Like when you have a pot of water on the stove, it’ll begin to steam long before it actually boils.

How does snow melt and evaporate off a sidewalk in the winter.

Water/moisture will go from high concentration to low .The heat helps keep it so moisture can evaporate.

ICDEDPPL 08-22-2018 05:13 PM

How does water evaporate after rain when it`s not 212* outside :D

Rookie 08-22-2018 07:46 PM

Why do my ice cubes evaporate/shrink in my freeze? ;) sublimation
You don't need 212°F for water to evaporate. I don't believe merc recommends oil temps above 190°F range

PigNaPoke 08-22-2018 09:49 PM

ran an aftermarket oil cooler with oil thermostat on my 540 whippled setup. I believe it was 180°.

Worked perfect and got oil warm without having to beat on a cold engine to get some oil temp.

easy to plumb, and get working. I would definitely have it on any future builds.

Don Johnson 08-23-2018 12:25 PM

All depends on how your engine is setup and you should run what the engine builder suggests. I have Teague Custom Marine 1,250 motors in my boat for example and TCM sets them up to run literally no temps on the water and oil. Temp does not register on gauges. No thermostats on the oil coolers. No water issues in the oil.

ToMorrow44 08-23-2018 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by Don Johnson (Post 4645371)
All depends on how your engine is setup and you should run what the engine builder suggests. I have Teague Custom Marine 1,250 motors in my boat for example and TCM sets them up to run literally no temps on the water and oil. Temp does not register on gauges. No thermostats on the oil coolers. No water issues in the oil.

You don’t see any temp on the water or oil temp gauges at all? My water temp will read like 130 or so, not a lot but enough that it’s registering on the gauge. I’m surprised nothing on the oil temp just based on the ridiculous load on these motors, hence having the giant oil cooler from Teague. I don’t have an oil temp gauge so not sure what mine runs at, I’ll hit it with a temp gun next time I’m out.

Don Johnson 08-23-2018 05:30 PM

My water gauge starts at 100 and oil at 140 and neither register. The only time they register is after shutting the motors down and they heat soak and I go to restart, then for a few moments they will register.

TCM runs 2 big plate type oil coolers for each motor on my setup then another plate cooler for each transmissions.

Out There 08-23-2018 05:57 PM

Good discussion guys. Teague was one I called . The tech guy listened to the info I posted and said " don't change a thing"


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