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Originally Posted by Tcurrie
(Post 4668619)
Possibly. Our first boat was a small Baja 208 Islander with 454 MAG and we would get up to 60 with adults in the front almost 70 with just my wife and I. Didn't push it that fast when our kids were out with us though. Other thing is I am in Michigan boating mostly on a river and once in awhile lake Michigan around Muskegon.
1) That weight up there is going to adjust your COG, and that will bite you when you least expect it, namely in a turn and/or evasive maneuver. 2) One bad wave is going to either catapult them out or a stuff would be, let's just say catastrophic. Don't get me wrong, I do like MCOB boats. I've been up front in an Open Bow catamaran with twin 400Rs at moderate speeds; when I have the utmost of trust in the driver. But when he was getting on it, he had us in the back, and in Poker Run conditions we were all in Lifelines in the backseat. |
Originally Posted by Sydwayz
(Post 4668627)
Yeah, so... don't do that. Sunsation and other MCOB boats even have "speed limit" plaques at the helm stating to keep speeds under 35 or so with folks in the bow.
1) That weight up there is going to adjust your COG, and that will bite you when you least expect it, namely in a turn and/or evasive maneuver. 2) One bad wave is going to either catapult them out or a stuff would be, let's just say catastrophic. Don't get me wrong, I do like MCOB boats. I've been up front in an Open Bow catamaran with twin 400Rs at moderate speeds; when I have the utmost of trust in the driver. But when he was getting on it, he had us in the back, and in Poker Run conditions we were all in Lifelines in the backseat. |
Oddly enough, the bow on my Islander is the quietest place of the whole boat where two people can chat across the isle in normal talky talk voice. But yea, I wouldn’t put anybody that you cherish up there at any great speed where one bad wave can launch them out. I reserve that space for ex girlfriends that want one last ride for ol’ times sake. ;p |
Originally Posted by Baja Rooster
(Post 4668646)
Oddly enough, the bow on my Islander is the quietest place of the whole boat where two people can chat across the isle in normal talky talk voice. But yea, I wouldn’t put anybody that you cherish up there at any great speed where one bad wave can launch them out. I reserve that space for ex girlfriends that want one last ride for ol’ times sake. ;p |
I agree the bow is no place for passengers at speed. Does anyone else think it's funny Sunsation fit a 100mph speedo in the peak of their MCOB bow......? https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...0162ad608.jpeg Photo lifted at random from a boat advertised online, no connections or inferences please. |
Ok, for the record I have been boating on this river for 18 years. I would not do anything to put my kids or any other passengers in danger. The desire for an open bow with good speed is so we have room for our family when we are out for a cruise but when it's just my wife and I want a boat that can get up and go. I'm aware of all the safety rules and recommendation that come with open bows and how fast you should travel with people in the front. Pushed our first open bow to around 60 with other experienced boaters that felt 100% comfortable with how I drive a boat and the conditions of the water. It was a let's see what this thing can do on a straight shot then we slowed it down and cruised the river at 30-35mph. I appreciate all the suggestion to be aware of risks and what I need to do to be safe.
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What is the overall thought on Ultra 28 Shadow Deck?
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@Speedracer 29 Where did you get this conversion done on the progression? I love it!
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Originally Posted by H2X BOSS
(Post 4668750)
@Speedracer 29 Where did you get this conversion done on the progression? I love it!
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Will be listing my 2004 cobra 27 Razor MCOB -
Will be listing my 2004 Cobra 27 Razor MCOB -excellent shape,lots of freeboard and grab handles for the ladies up front https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kth0udwby...JjPpAOUba?dl=0 |
Originally Posted by ghabeck
(Post 4668766)
Will be listing my 2004 Cobra 27 Razor MCOB -excellent shape,lots of freeboard and grab handles for the ladies up front https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kth0udwby...JjPpAOUba?dl=0 |
Originally Posted by ghabeck
(Post 4668766)
Will be listing my 2004 Cobra 27 Razor MCOB -excellent shape,lots of freeboard and grab handles for the ladies up front https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kth0udwby...JjPpAOUba?dl=0 |
Originally Posted by ghabeck
(Post 4668766)
Will be listing my 2004 Cobra 27 Razor MCOB -excellent shape,lots of freeboard and grab handles for the ladies up front https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kth0udwby...JjPpAOUba?dl=0 |
Originally Posted by ghabeck
(Post 4668766)
Will be listing my 2004 Cobra 27 Razor MCOB -excellent shape,lots of freeboard and grab handles for the ladies up front https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kth0udwby...JjPpAOUba?dl=0 |
But below the center cushion there is also a warning that there shouldn’t be anyone in the bow when on plane...
Originally Posted by rak rua
(Post 4668666)
I agree the bow is no place for passengers at speed. Does anyone else think it's funny Sunsation fit a 100mph speedo in the peak of their MCOB bow......? https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...0162ad608.jpeg Photo lifted at random from a boat advertised online, no connections or inferences please. |
Originally Posted by Tcurrie
(Post 4668674)
Ok, for the record I have been boating on this river for 18 years. I would not do anything to put my kids or any other passengers in danger. The desire for an open bow with good speed is so we have room for our family when we are out for a cruise but when it's just my wife and I want a boat that can get up and go. I'm aware of all the safety rules and recommendation that come with open bows and how fast you should travel with people in the front. Pushed our first open bow to around 60 with other experienced boaters that felt 100% comfortable with how I drive a boat and the conditions of the water. It was a let's see what this thing can do on a straight shot then we slowed it down and cruised the river at 30-35mph. I appreciate all the suggestion to be aware of risks and what I need to do to be safe.
Obviously we are not going to do something that is reckless. My wife is 69 years old and i would never do anything to make her or her friends uncomfortable. As far as c of g- Not enough to make a difference on my boat- love to throw er in some nice turns , usually only 2 passengers up front. If more or someone is facing you with there back to the bow, all the way up front, that will be a different scenario . We boat in the finger lakes or Lake Ontario. Any of them can kick up ,but Ontario can get just plain snotty . We boat accordingly. I have done a few non sanctioned poker runs ( boat and floats ). - we leave the girls home for those. i can guarantee anyone that they would be a whole lot more comfortable in my open bow than a whole bunch of you tearing it up in the lakes and oceans - After all- This is OSO right? |
Bajas cost way to much used for what you’re getting imo. |
My wife would have been up front but it was prety cold that fall evening running 25 miles back from Oswego after dinner. you can see there is someone up front in the boat i am running with. That's a 29 ' active thunder open bow. we are doing about 68 - 69 there https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kth0udwby...JjPpAOUba?dl=0 |
I think most folks here have matured beyond the mentality of a jet skier, and are generally cautious about not tossing their loved ones into the bay. Any captain above worthy of the Darwin Award can make prudent decisions. Those deck boats seem like sweet fun. |
I have a 28 Donzi ZXO. They are a bit slower than the standard 28zx due to the aero. Very good bottom, run very well. I have had as many as 12 on board with no issues. IMO the 28 donzi is better than the sensation because you get twins and is faster. Sensation is a good boat though
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Open bow is fine on flat water but it sure gets windy up there! Depending on the weight of the individuals up there the tabs might come into play to level out the boat and it can bow steer badly coming off plane.
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How big is the cabin on a sunsation 288 mid-cabin? Can the two benches be made into a bed for two people to sleep on for a night or is there not that much room?
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Take a look at the Monterey Supersports
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Holy thread resurrection, Batman!
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