Former marina manager in prison
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Originally posted by Troutly
Did he use to be a member here? I recall some sales dude from Michigan shooting off his yap about Nordic boats a long while back.
Did he use to be a member here? I recall some sales dude from Michigan shooting off his yap about Nordic boats a long while back.
There was a pretty good column that was written up about it on the front page of The Herald-Palladium newspaper.
Heading: "Former marina operator guilty of fraud"
Story: "A former marina operator charged with bilking customers out of tens of thousands of dollars has pleaded gulity to three felony charges.
Marc L. Jacob, who was part owner of J&M Marine in Watervliet, sold boats he didn't even own, causing unwitting buyers to lose large investments, prosecutors say."
It goes on in more detail for several paragraphs after that.
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There was also a whizzing match on the board a while back between my ole' college roommate and Marc (he used to work for Marc). That was pretty heated, some of you may remember. There were some posts from other members about keeping things like that off the board.
I think Marc was a good guy, just a little misguided (as some very wise person put it.) I think he got into the scenario where once you do a little flub, then it seems not so bad, then it can escalate and get worse. Eventually, it catches up to you.
He brokered our boat and was straight up the whole time. And honest, even claiming the taxes, etc. (that was another crime that he was found guilty of in other instances) My transaction was quite a few years back and I also insisted on an active role in that participation. Of course, I'm anal However, he did do some very bad things to some very nice people in our local area. I know of 3 people that had issues. Fortunately for them, they resolved them before the fan was impacted Not without financial burdens to them, though.
He was very nice to deal with if you were a prospective customer, but if you bought elsewhere, he acted differently. I had that experience with him as well. Unfortunately along the way, I don't think he realized the value of building relationships with either current or prospective customers.
And who knows, he may be back and selling boats again someday. If he learned from his mistakes and concentrates on relationships, I think he'd be a very successful businessman. He has a lot to overcome, both a now soiled reputation and personal controversy to overcome. We can pray that these 23 months are used wisely, so he is able to sort things out and get back on the straight and narrow.
Mark
I think Marc was a good guy, just a little misguided (as some very wise person put it.) I think he got into the scenario where once you do a little flub, then it seems not so bad, then it can escalate and get worse. Eventually, it catches up to you.
He brokered our boat and was straight up the whole time. And honest, even claiming the taxes, etc. (that was another crime that he was found guilty of in other instances) My transaction was quite a few years back and I also insisted on an active role in that participation. Of course, I'm anal However, he did do some very bad things to some very nice people in our local area. I know of 3 people that had issues. Fortunately for them, they resolved them before the fan was impacted Not without financial burdens to them, though.
He was very nice to deal with if you were a prospective customer, but if you bought elsewhere, he acted differently. I had that experience with him as well. Unfortunately along the way, I don't think he realized the value of building relationships with either current or prospective customers.
And who knows, he may be back and selling boats again someday. If he learned from his mistakes and concentrates on relationships, I think he'd be a very successful businessman. He has a lot to overcome, both a now soiled reputation and personal controversy to overcome. We can pray that these 23 months are used wisely, so he is able to sort things out and get back on the straight and narrow.
Mark
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To let everyone know.
The person that took over the marina in Watervliet is a good mechanic and fair person. He has done work for me and I have no complaints. It would be unfair for him loose business just because he is in a crooks past location.
The person that took over the marina in Watervliet is a good mechanic and fair person. He has done work for me and I have no complaints. It would be unfair for him loose business just because he is in a crooks past location.
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I received the last boat that Marc delivered before his business went south and the "authorities" went after him.
I have to admit I got very nervous at the time of delivery becaue negative comments were being posted on OSO about his business. I live in CT and his business was in MI...that's alot of miles when your talking big $$$
However, Marc did come through as promised. There were some minor issues with my boat as a result of him not sea-trialing it and ensuring every thing on the boat was "ship-shape". I wound up doing the repairs myself and when I sent him a bill, he was out of business.
I agree with 32Fever, Marc seemed to be a good person that got in over his head and a lack of good sense did him in. There is no excuse for those crimes that he got convicted on. I don't know the particulars of other people's dealings and won't comment on those, I can only speak for myself.
He had enthusiasm for his product and knew it well. That enthusiasm rubbed off on his customers and he moved a fair amount of inventory.
I also hope he spends the next couple of years reflecting on what could have been a good career and attempts to change his ways. It'll be a "tough row to hoe" when he gets out.
I have to admit I got very nervous at the time of delivery becaue negative comments were being posted on OSO about his business. I live in CT and his business was in MI...that's alot of miles when your talking big $$$
However, Marc did come through as promised. There were some minor issues with my boat as a result of him not sea-trialing it and ensuring every thing on the boat was "ship-shape". I wound up doing the repairs myself and when I sent him a bill, he was out of business.
I agree with 32Fever, Marc seemed to be a good person that got in over his head and a lack of good sense did him in. There is no excuse for those crimes that he got convicted on. I don't know the particulars of other people's dealings and won't comment on those, I can only speak for myself.
He had enthusiasm for his product and knew it well. That enthusiasm rubbed off on his customers and he moved a fair amount of inventory.
I also hope he spends the next couple of years reflecting on what could have been a good career and attempts to change his ways. It'll be a "tough row to hoe" when he gets out.
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Originally posted by Quiet Storm
To let everyone know.
The person that took over the marina in Watervliet is a good mechanic and fair person. He has done work for me and I have no complaints. It would be unfair for him loose business just because he is in a crooks past location.
To let everyone know.
The person that took over the marina in Watervliet is a good mechanic and fair person. He has done work for me and I have no complaints. It would be unfair for him loose business just because he is in a crooks past location.
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Originally posted by catmando
"...the fan was impacted". A more PC way to put it for sure!
Sup Mark, how's the beakboat runnin'?
"...the fan was impacted". A more PC way to put it for sure!
Sup Mark, how's the beakboat runnin'?
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Catmando -
I find it alarming when a number of you try to sound so very knowledgable with your comments and information (or rather lack thereof). Regarding the marina at Lake Texoma, the family name is LOE rather than your brilliant spelling of LOWE. This forum has its moments of truth, yet it gets a little warped at times.
I find it alarming when a number of you try to sound so very knowledgable with your comments and information (or rather lack thereof). Regarding the marina at Lake Texoma, the family name is LOE rather than your brilliant spelling of LOWE. This forum has its moments of truth, yet it gets a little warped at times.