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Yup that is the one. Think it was a '98 with stock 502's. Original owner boat I believe. It was nice.
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Originally Posted by hogie roll
(Post 4679018)
I didn’t need a survey to finance my boat through my credit union or to insure it through statefarm. |
Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me
(Post 4679046)
Yup that is the one. Think it was a '98 with stock 502's. Original owner boat I believe. It was nice.
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Originally Posted by BBYSTWY
(Post 4679012)
Being you've owned both...what are your thoughts of the AT compared to others in its size range? Goal would be a 38 gun but I just don't think I'm there money wise yet.
... I was rolling down the Potomac River in my 26' Sonic one day when a buddy was across the river just eating up the water in his 37' AT. THAT moment is when I knew I'd have a 37' AT one day. I loved my 37' AT and kept it for 13 seasons; and the new owners are still ecstatic with it. Both the Sonic and AT are great rough water boats, but given size for size category in those two brands, I'd pick the AT each time. The Sonic will always have more of a production feel since they were a production boat until the bottom fell out of the market. AT has always been a custom boat, where each boat started with a blank sheet a paper. You will see more custom inputs, touches, and themes on most of the Active Thunders vs. the Sonics. I like 36/38/39/42 Cigarettes too, but the BUYER for an AT and a Cigarette are different. Often, one is looking for value and/or versatility, and the other is looking for a toy and/or a certain caliber for display. You can get the versatility of a full cabin, full of amenities in a Top Gun, but it will be an older one with a straight bottom. Lots more info on this posted in the past, but the original owner of Sonic, Jay Ross was great friends with Pat Haughey, the original and current owner of Active Thunder. (Notice, I said ACTIVE Thunder. Pat bought "Thunder Boats" and molds from a guy named Bob in Illinois way back the the day.) Why did Pat buy Thunder Boats and create "Active Thunder"? Because Pat had a 31' Sonic at the time, and saw a 32' Thunder eating up Lake Michigan and had to have one. So he bought the company. :D After Jay sold Sonic, he actually worked for Pat at Active for a while, but that partnership did not work out, and Jay moved on. Back to comparing the ATs to others: I've seen 32' ATs outrun other 35-38 foot boats in the FPC Key West Poker Run in the snotty stuff not due to HP, but due to ride. The 32' AT is an amazing hull. And where does the 32' AT hull have trace roots back to? The 35' Cigarette Mistress. And when it comes to the 37' AT, I'd take that boat over anything else in the market in the 37-39' range in full cabin stand up boats in rough water. You have to know HOW to set the boat up to get it to perform. You don't trim it to the moon, point and shoot (any boat). But it is far and away the best riding most predictable hull out there in that size range. |
Well Brian, now you have pissed off the Fountain, Cig and Baja guys.
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Hahahaha drock....That was very informative and helpful sydwayz thanks you!! You do have me wondering however if I should hold out for a 37 instead of "settling" for the 32....no doubt the 32 will probably handle anything I will throw at it with ease but anyone who's been on Lake Michigan knows it can totally flip and be ROUGH in a matter of hours if not minutes...I don't ever want to be stranded somewhere like south haven, Chicago, wherever and not be able to go home because of the water which is what I have now in my heat....it sucks this thing doesn't ride better as it has been my dream boat since I was 16 years old but is what it is...would be great if all I ran was rivers and small lakes but I LOVE being out on the "big lake" and letting her eat heading to another port for supper or whatever....can't get enough of it!! Unless there's anything bigger than a 2 then I'm out hahaha
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I'm sure the 32 will out perform your 35. However, a 37 is a beast for its size. Very predictable, well balanced, great handling boat. I'd own another in a heartbeat.
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I have a 28...wish it was a 35 and we may not be having this conversation hahaha
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Oops. Lol.
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Originally Posted by BBYSTWY
(Post 4679089)
Hahahaha drock....That was very informative and helpful sydwayz thanks you!! You do have me wondering however if I should hold out for a 37 instead of "settling" for the 32....no doubt the 32 will probably handle anything I will throw at it with ease but anyone who's been on Lake Michigan knows it can totally flip and be ROUGH in a matter of hours if not minutes...I don't ever want to be stranded somewhere like south haven, Chicago, wherever and not be able to go home because of the water which is what I have now in my heat....it sucks this thing doesn't ride better as it has been my dream boat since I was 16 years old but is what it is...would be great if all I ran was rivers and small lakes but I LOVE being out on the "big lake" and letting her eat heading to another port for supper or whatever....can't get enough of it!! Unless there's anything bigger than a 2 then I'm out hahaha
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It sounds like Fast Forward is going to Detroit. Survey is tomorrow I believe. I purposely looked for one of the 496 37's for the exact same reason Brian said, I wanted to boat every weekend.
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Looking at it now that probably would have been a great idea really...I do believe it sold however like drock said...maybe another will come up at some point soon...if anyone knows of a 37 coming up for sale feel free to mention it!!
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https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...78f63cef10.jpgthis was at Boyne Thunder 3 years ago in 4-6'. Flies level and lands nice.
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God bless it....yup...shoulda probably pursued it more :hitfan:
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I have a 33 Powerplay for sale. If interested please PM me.
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Just got your message...replied
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Originally Posted by Sydwayz
(Post 4679116)
You could very simply buy Fast Forward now,
I bought Monsoon, which also has 496HOs.
Originally Posted by Drock78
(Post 4679119)
It sounds like Fast Forward is going to Detroit. Survey is tomorrow I believe. I purposely looked for one of the 496 37's for the exact same reason Brian said, I wanted to boat every weekend.
OH, and 2000 they were still wood... |
I rode on a friends 37 on LOTO one shootout weekend several yrs ago. I was very impressed at how level it flew and even when getting on plan- i dont think we ever lost horizon.
And we all know how LOTO thows 8-10' at ya :riding: |
Quin - how do you like the 37 versus your Gun? What are the top three differences? There's one up at our marina, really nice boat, never been on it. I always liked those boats, but like the styling of the TG over the AT. Tons of head room and usable cabin in the AT which is a winner for us up here in Lake Erie.
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Originally Posted by Quinlan
(Post 4679305)
I rode on a friends 37 on LOTO one shootout weekend several yrs ago. I was very impressed at how level it flew and even when getting on plan- i dont think we ever lost horizon.
And we all know how LOTO thows 8-10' at ya :riding: |
37 AT has a much better cabin with full standup head, bigger cockpit, runs the same speeds, and has about the same rough water capabilities as a 38 TG, but will be about 60% of the price of a comparable TG. But atleast if you own a Cigarette you can brag to your buddies how cool you are that you own a Cigarette and how 60 years ago Don Aronow was the ****. :food-smiley-007: Hustler has a slogan “lb for lb the fastest offshore boats built” and I always told my buddies “$ for $ Cigarette is the slowest offshore boat you can buy” |
Originally Posted by BBYSTWY
(Post 4679169)
Looking at it now that probably would have been a great idea really...I do believe it sold however like drock said...maybe another will come up at some point soon...if anyone knows of a 37 coming up for sale feel free to mention it!!
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Originally Posted by Sydwayz
(Post 4679062)
My first boat was a 26' Sonic, and I skipped the 31/32 state by holding the 26' for a season or so longer, and bought the 37' AT. My 26' Sonic sold sight unseen to a guy in Montana, who sent a check and a shipper. Several years later, he ended up saving his neighbor's son's life who became stranded on their lake due to an abnormal windstorm, that contributed to his PWC becoming disabled. The Sonic was the only boat that could go out on the rough water; and he still owns the boat today, some 15 years later.
I was rolling down the Potomac River in my 26' Sonic one day when a buddy was across the river just eating up the water in his 37' AT. THAT moment is when I knew I'd have a 37' AT one day. I loved my 37' AT and kept it for 13 seasons; and the new owners are still ecstatic with it. Both the Sonic and AT are great rough water boats, but given size for size category in those two brands, I'd pick the AT each time. The Sonic will always have more of a production feel since they were a production boat until the bottom fell out of the market. AT has always been a custom boat, where each boat started with a blank sheet a paper. You will see more custom inputs, touches, and themes on most of the Active Thunders vs. the Sonics. I like 36/38/39/42 Cigarettes too, but the BUYER for an AT and a Cigarette are different. Often, one is looking for value and/or versatility, and the other is looking for a toy and/or a certain caliber for display. You can get the versatility of a full cabin, full of amenities in a Top Gun, but it will be an older one with a straight bottom. Lots more info on this posted in the past, but the original owner of Sonic, Jay Ross was great friends with Pat Haughey, the original and current owner of Active Thunder. (Notice, I said ACTIVE Thunder. Pat bought "Thunder Boats" and molds from a guy named Bob in Illinois way back the the day.) Why did Pat buy Thunder Boats and create "Active Thunder"? Because Pat had a 31' Sonic at the time, and saw a 32' Thunder eating up Lake Michigan and had to have one. So he bought the company. :D After Jay sold Sonic, he actually worked for Pat at Active for a while, but that partnership did not work out, and Jay moved on. Back to comparing the ATs to others: I've seen 32' ATs outrun other 35-38 foot boats in the FPC Key West Poker Run in the snotty stuff not due to HP, but due to ride. The 32' AT is an amazing hull. And where does the 32' AT hull have trace roots back to? The 35' Cigarette Mistress. And when it comes to the 37' AT, I'd take that boat over anything else in the market in the 37-39' range in full cabin stand up boats in rough water. You have to know HOW to set the boat up to get it to perform. You don't trim it to the moon, point and shoot (any boat). But it is far and away the best riding most predictable hull out there in that size range. |
Originally Posted by northernoffshore
(Post 4679346)
always thought it was an excalibur they modifed??
I believe your right that the 32 was off the excalibur the 24 was off a cigarette fire fox. |
Originally Posted by Sydwayz
(Post 4679008)
2) Look closely, whereas the center section of an AT is recessed.
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Originally Posted by Sydwayz
(Post 4679062)
My first boat was a 26' Sonic, and I skipped the 31/32 state by holding the 26' for a season or so longer, and bought the 37' AT. My 26' Sonic sold sight unseen to a guy in Montana, who sent a check and a shipper. Several years later, he ended up saving his neighbor's son's life who became stranded on their lake due to an abnormal windstorm, that contributed to his PWC becoming disabled. The Sonic was the only boat that could go out on the rough water; and he still owns the boat today, some 15 years later.
I was rolling down the Potomac River in my 26' Sonic one day when a buddy was across the river just eating up the water in his 37' AT. THAT moment is when I knew I'd have a 37' AT one day. I loved my 37' AT and kept it for 13 seasons; and the new owners are still ecstatic with it. Both the Sonic and AT are great rough water boats, but given size for size category in those two brands, I'd pick the AT each time. The Sonic will always have more of a production feel since they were a production boat until the bottom fell out of the market. AT has always been a custom boat, where each boat started with a blank sheet a paper. You will see more custom inputs, touches, and themes on most of the Active Thunders vs. the Sonics. I like 36/38/39/42 Cigarettes too, but the BUYER for an AT and a Cigarette are different. Often, one is looking for value and/or versatility, and the other is looking for a toy and/or a certain caliber for display. You can get the versatility of a full cabin, full of amenities in a Top Gun, but it will be an older one with a straight bottom. Lots more info on this posted in the past, but the original owner of Sonic, Jay Ross was great friends with Pat Haughey, the original and current owner of Active Thunder. (Notice, I said ACTIVE Thunder. Pat bought "Thunder Boats" and molds from a guy named Bob in Illinois way back the the day.) Why did Pat buy Thunder Boats and create "Active Thunder"? Because Pat had a 31' Sonic at the time, and saw a 32' Thunder eating up Lake Michigan and had to have one. So he bought the company. :D After Jay sold Sonic, he actually worked for Pat at Active for a while, but that partnership did not work out, and Jay moved on. Back to comparing the ATs to others: I've seen 32' ATs outrun other 35-38 foot boats in the FPC Key West Poker Run in the snotty stuff not due to HP, but due to ride. The 32' AT is an amazing hull. And where does the 32' AT hull have trace roots back to? The 35' Cigarette Mistress. And when it comes to the 37' AT, I'd take that boat over anything else in the market in the 37-39' range in full cabin stand up boats in rough water. You have to know HOW to set the boat up to get it to perform. You don't trim it to the moon, point and shoot (any boat). But it is far and away the best riding most predictable hull out there in that size range. |
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