Notices

Adding a pad

Old 05-11-2019, 11:45 PM
  #11  
Registered
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 50
Received 22 Likes on 11 Posts
Default

If you make your pad completely flat, please let us know your results. I also have a 251, and was always curious to why they didn't make the pad completely flat,like on the Checkmate Eluder I grew up on. Rough water ride is my guess.
miller high life is offline  
Old 05-12-2019, 04:30 AM
  #12  
Registered
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 498
Received 121 Likes on 62 Posts
Default

Superboat on Long Island added steps years ago! I believe engine builder Rich Zul owned boat?
Nothing personel 353 is offline  
Old 05-12-2019, 07:12 AM
  #13  
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Toronto Canada
Posts: 1,249
Likes: 0
Received 38 Likes on 27 Posts
Default

Open87 I put a notch in my 1985 cigarette flat a number of years ago as I put ssm5 drives on as well . I have a thread in the cigarette forum believe it or not called " how to put notch in a flat deck " give it look it might shead some insight as to how much work it is . But for
me it was worth it .
Cheers Rick G.
Rick G is offline  
Old 05-12-2019, 12:01 PM
  #14  
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Cardington Ohio
Posts: 4,182
Received 1,819 Likes on 711 Posts
Default

Will do and you are correct.

Flat pad = speed but pounding in rough water.
The width of the pad has a huge effect on this.
I will keep my narrow (5 1/2") to keep the sea keeping abilities while still retaining the flat pad.

Downside is the narrower they are the harder it is to balance/keep the boat on the pad at speed.
Im OK w/that though as I much prefer a boat that rewards driver iunput.

I grew up flying pad bottom, O/B powered vees.
Not much better.

Heres a 17' Hydrostream Vector w/a workbench OMC @ 101.


Originally Posted by miller high life
If you make your pad completely flat, please let us know your results. I also have a 251, and was always curious to why they didn't make the pad completely flat,like on the Checkmate Eluder I grew up on. Rough water ride is my guess.
Twin O/B Sonic is offline  
Old 05-12-2019, 12:33 PM
  #15  
Registered
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: anna maria island,fl
Posts: 495
Received 23 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

Will Smith's 29 Phantom started life as a 27/28 Magnum ( basically same bottom as 28 Pantera/Cig , ect.). His pad/strake design provided additional speed without hurting rough water performance, as this became a proven race winner.
PARASAIL941 is offline  
Old 05-29-2019, 12:03 PM
  #16  
Registered
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Hamble Le Rice England
Posts: 218
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default






12 years ago i added a pad to our 37ft Hunton XRS, it is fitted with quite heavy diesel engines and needed more stern lift worked out extremely well. Always looking for more speed and fuel economy i recently decided to add to the width of the pad using Iroko which i pre-finished with epoxy then bonded on to the hull, the new addition has 1/2" of rocker built into the rear over the last 3ft this is giving lots more lift to the point where i am having to make 1" spacers for the drives as i am running out of prop grip.
peterunwin is offline  
Old 05-29-2019, 12:13 PM
  #17  
Registered
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: St. Pete Beach, FL
Posts: 3,573
Received 566 Likes on 339 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by peterunwin




12 years ago i added a pad to our 37ft Hunton XRS, it is fitted with quite heavy diesel engines and needed more stern lift worked out extremely well. Always looking for more speed and fuel economy i recently decided to add to the width of the pad using Iroko which i pre-finished with epoxy then bonded on to the hull, the new addition has 1/2" of rocker built into the rear over the last 3ft this is giving lots more lift to the point where i am having to make 1" spacers for the drives as i am running out of prop grip.
Wow. Is that the water pick up at the back?
hogie roll is offline  
Old 05-29-2019, 02:11 PM
  #18  
Registered
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Hamble Le Rice England
Posts: 218
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by hogie roll


Wow. Is that the water pick up at the back?
It is, when the boat was new it picked up water from the nose cone of the drives along with lots of weed and i wasn't getting the volume i required for the modified engines so i built my own system. I also converted all the coolers on the engines to single pass and linked the various coolers with 2" bore titanium pipe, the long pieces on top of the engine are jacketed along their entire length with internal baffles between the skins and are used as fuel coolers, so we have fuel at seawater temperature makes quite a difference to power and fuel economy.

peterunwin is offline  
Old 05-29-2019, 02:27 PM
  #19  
Registered
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Merritt Island, FL
Posts: 6,645
Received 1,323 Likes on 739 Posts
Default

Cool stuff Pete.

And forgive me for saying it was a coyote on the first page
Wildman_grafix is offline  
Old 05-29-2019, 08:47 PM
  #20  
Registered
iTrader: (3)
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Lees Summit ~ LOTO 10MM
Posts: 2,981
Received 121 Likes on 65 Posts
Default

Wow!!! Peter, you are a hell of a engineer. Very cool stuff
endeavor1 is offline  

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.