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kjm5125 06-26-2019 08:13 PM

Boat lift
 
5 years ago I bought a hydraulic boat lift. Have had issues with a muddy bottom and keeping the boat level. Now compounded with constant changing water levels and a very poor service in the area, I’ve decided to look at floating lifts. I’m looking at Jet Dock, Harbor-hoist and Sunstreams Float Lift. Any opinions?

Thanks

pat@osp 06-26-2019 09:28 PM

Add FAB Dock to your list of options to look into.

flashgordon 06-27-2019 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by kjm5125 (Post 4694016)
5 years ago I bought a hydraulic boat lift. Have had issues with a muddy bottom and keeping the boat level. Now compounded with constant changing water levels and a very poor service in the area, I’ve decided to look at floating lifts. I’m looking at Jet Dock, Harbor-hoist and Sunstreams Float Lift. Any opinions?

Thanks

hello,,,
keep a post going on what you find..
i looked at several companies , requested quotes.

NWfreerider 06-27-2019 09:03 AM

I have the 10.5k Sunstream. I actually have two of them, they work great and are low maintenance. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...575187bec4.jpg

GLENAMY 242SS 06-27-2019 09:07 AM

My 242SS sits on an "Econo-Lift" and there are 2 ea. 400SS in the marina on Econo-Lifts as well. Actually most lifts in the marina are this brand or they are Hydra-Hoist.
You will love them.

lightning jet 06-27-2019 09:45 AM

Harbor hoist all the way very easy low maintenance auto lift and submerge the boat stay level

Slippery 06-27-2019 12:48 PM

soft bottom
 
If you want to try and keep the hydraulic lift, I've heard of people using a mesh "screen" - similar to trampoline material - or even screened fencing under the legs.

I don't know how big your lift/boat combo is, but we live on a lake with a marrow bottom and for our ski boat I cut the ends off 55 gallon drums and filled them with concrete & our lift legs sit on those pads. A larger version of that might work ? I put eyebolts in the sides so I could tow and position the pads to where they needed to be.

I considered floating lifts for our big boat but ended up having Manning Marine put bigger "feet" on the 20K lift they built for us.

There's just something about floating lifts I couldn't make myself trust but I've never had any experience with them either.

Good luck
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bigboat28 06-28-2019 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by kjm5125 (Post 4694016)
5 years ago I bought a hydraulic boat lift. Have had issues with a muddy bottom and keeping the boat level. Now compounded with constant changing water levels and a very poor service in the area, I’ve decided to look at floating lifts. I’m looking at Jet Dock, Harbor-hoist and Sunstreams Float Lift. Any opinions?

Thanks

Where are you at now? You used to be at Skipper buds correct?

kjm5125 06-28-2019 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by bigboat28 (Post 4694293)
Where are you at now? You used to be at Skipper buds correct?

Yes, use to be at Skipper Buds. Hard to beat indoor rack storage. Now, Harbor Creek by Castaway Bay.

outlw36 06-29-2019 07:31 AM

Airberth, lower cost to purchase, no hydraulic to deal with, no metal parts.

frickstyle 06-29-2019 08:08 AM

Keith, Ron "1989Mach1" (on here) with the 33' Donzi over at Castaway Bay has a floating lift. Go look at his, not sure if you know him. that may help you decide?

It's the boat with blue on it and checkered flag style graphics towards the aft. I think he's on the end of B or C dock. You can see it from the road.

beertruck 06-30-2019 08:45 AM

I have a 13K sun stream and love it.
use it in new england salt water, and leave it in year round. Ive had it for 5 years, and the only maintenance I have had to do is add water to the batteries, and a gallon on hydraulic fluid this year.https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...8f744de7e3.jpg

kjm5125 07-01-2019 09:11 AM

Sunstream
 

Originally Posted by NWfreerider (Post 4694105)
I have the 10.5k Sunstream. I actually have two of them, they work great and are low maintenance. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...575187bec4.jpg

Contacted Sunstream and they sent me the contact information for the dealer in my area. I've dealt with this dealer before and the service is not good. They last thing I want is a dealer who doesn't respond. Months ago,at the boat show, I requested from his information on the lift and never heard. I already gave him a down payment to move and level my existing lift. Finally got that done and soon as I put the boat on the lift the lift shifted. Emailed Sunstream and they called me, I called back the other day. We'll see what happens.

kjm5125 07-01-2019 09:19 AM

Boat weighs about 10,500 lbs. and sits on 18,000 lbs lift. They said they put 3x3 sacrificial pads on the bottom of each leg.
Neighbor has an older Harbor Hoist and as far as ultimate boat protection and accessibility seems like a good viable option.

kjm5125 07-01-2019 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by outlw36 (Post 4694363)
Airberth, lower cost to purchase, no hydraulic to deal with, no metal parts.

I got a price on the Harbor Hoist and very reasonable. Waiting to see what Sunstream comes up with.

kjm5125 07-01-2019 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by beertruck (Post 4694454)
I have a 13K sun stream and love it.
use it in new england salt water, and leave it in year round. Ive had it for 5 years, and the only maintenance I have had to do is add water to the batteries, and a gallon on hydraulic fluid this year.https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...8f744de7e3.jpg

A very important factor is low maintenance. For lift maintenance, It cost about $2,000.00 every time just to get a barge out. Get's expensive after awhile. Let's see if Sunstream comes up with a price.

outlw36 07-01-2019 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by kjm5125 (Post 4694595)
I got a price on the Harbor Hoist and very reasonable. Waiting to see what Sunstream comes up with.

Habor hoist and airberth 2 different companies.

kjm5125 07-01-2019 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by frickstyle (Post 4694370)
Keith, Ron "1989Mach1" (on here) with the 33' Donzi over at Castaway Bay has a floating lift. Go look at his, not sure if you know him. that may help you decide?

It's the boat with blue on it and checkered flag style graphics towards the aft. I think he's on the end of B or C dock. You can see it from the road.

Thanks Know the boat and the lift.

1989mach1 07-01-2019 03:37 PM

Even when the water back there was low none of us at castaway had a problem with the hydrohoists and the maintenance on the hydrohoists are not that bad. 4 ball valves two small blowers and some rubber hoses. The older ones can be patched if they leak. I just had a big patch done on mine from where someone hit it with there swim platform and made a big hole. Hydrohoist now has the poly tubes and aluminum framing but for a 12k side tie like mine run around 20 to 25 thousand.

1989mach1 07-01-2019 03:44 PM

Used ones can be bought for 4k and up just have to keep your eye out because when they pop up they sell quickly

Quinlan 07-01-2019 03:48 PM

I am in fresh water but I have a second hand Hydro Hoist and it has been mostly maintenance free. A couple of air pumps in 10 yrs. It is 18K.
Friend built it in 2002 I think, for his T/S Gun. He also had a 47 Lightning on it with no problem. it is the fiberglass tubes.
Now they are a poly or something and much nicer.

kjm5125 09-10-2019 07:51 PM

Thanks for all the input. Going with Harborhoist.

hoodoo 04-18-2021 08:49 AM

Old thread but...
I’m looking for a lift for a river/lake place in north idaho. Here in fl 99% of the lifts are cable hoist with pilings like in this pic.
They are what I’m used to and seem to be the best value in terms of capacity per $$.
Why are they not widely used in the north or west?
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...10cb6cce8.jpeg

scarabman 04-18-2021 10:28 AM

In the North, possibly due to ice jacking of the pilings? I have a new IMM on the way to replace my 18 yr old Magnum

hoodoo 04-18-2021 12:15 PM

I think it might be a permitting issue. The pilings are considered permanent and might even deduct from the allowable dock sq footage, which usually gets maxed out before the lift is considered.

sailtexas186548 04-18-2021 03:37 PM

In clear lake everybody uses timber pilings and cable lifts like Florida, more slings than cradles here due to skinny water which is why you don’t see hydrohoists.

our extended fam has a place on LOTO, with a hyrohoist. They are $$ but I would never use a cable lift If I had deep enough water for a hydro hoist style (hinged). I don’t know why Florida doesn’t use them in protected canals and harbors, I would guess water depth.

Interceptor 04-18-2021 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by hoodoo (Post 4786328)
I think it might be a permitting issue. The pilings are considered permanent and might even deduct from the allowable dock sq footage, which usually gets maxed out before the lift is considered.

The states environmental agency/laws could be a problem with fixed pilings and possible dredging.
HOA's = NIMBY

hoodoo 04-18-2021 05:55 PM

Could be something like that, I’ll find out tomorrow. Just don’t want to send something out there and find out later it’s unusable for some reason. I have a semi trailer load of irrigation equipment going from FL to ID in two weeks and have room to include a cable lift, just need someone to set the pilings later.

hoodoo 04-19-2021 04:12 PM

This is why I love Idaho.
A single 3 minute call to Dept of Lands, no permit needed if lift is within footprint of the dock.
if you choose to go outside the footprint it’s 400$ and 2 wk process time. He sounded apologetic about the process time. Type of lift not an issue.

seafordguy 04-19-2021 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by scarabman (Post 4786311)
In the North, possibly due to ice jacking of the pilings? I have a new IMM on the way to replace my 18 yr old Magnum


I have a 20k IMM elevator left. What fantastic build quality. Great choice......

hoodoo 04-19-2021 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by seafordguy (Post 4786523)

I have a 20k IMM elevator left. What fantastic build quality. Great choice......


Yeah the elevator lift is bad azz

Quinlan 04-20-2021 05:39 AM

Here the lake elevation level rises and lowers way to much(12'+-) to make a fixed piling lift. Whole dock floats with water level

Eddienel 04-20-2021 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by Quinlan (Post 4786574)
Here the lake elevation level rises and lowers way to much(12'+-) to make a fixed piling lift. Whole dock floats with water level

Same here. Im about maxed out on a cable lift floating dock. When I upgrade boats ill have to go to some sort of hydro style lift.

hoodoo 04-20-2021 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by Quinlan (Post 4786574)
Here the lake elevation level rises and lowers way to much(12'+-) to make a fixed piling lift. Whole dock floats with water level


The river out there stays at the same level May- Oct 1. Then it’s dropped about 8-10’ but way too cold by then.


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