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First Boat Opinions
Looking for some options and opinions on a first boat.
As a guy that is fresh out of college here are some things about me to help:
I am partial to the Bajas because my parents had 3 of them and really liked their 33 Outlaw. Also like the old styling and colors. Anyways enough of my rambling. |
Is there a length requirement? Do you plan to spend the night or go for day trips? |
Originally Posted by 1MOSES1
(Post 4696264)
Is there a length requirement? Do you plan to spend the night or go for day trips? I would be doing mainly day trips, but not sure if I would only be doing day trips. |
25 Outlaw
26-28 Powerquest 26 Sonic 288 Sunsation |
we went with powerquest over baja because it has more cockpit room. more space between back seat and front seats. all in whats important to youl
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First boat and you're still young so if you enjoy it, there'll be many more..... If you buy a modified setup with big power and lots of work done, it's gonna cost you more on time and maintenance. That's the nature of the beast. All boats cost you money but the hotter ones cost you more. Twin engines are great but once again, more money on maintenance and a touch more on fuel. Don't get burnt buying too much boat first time round. Buy a single engine, stock power (probably 496 or 496ho) with a good history that's been cared for. Survey hull, particularly for wet transom/stringers. I reckon Baja is hard to beat, straight bottom, easy to drive and pretty good room onboard. A great boat to start with, and they look nice too. Outlaw Vs Islander....... up to you, whichever you prefer layout wise. My 2 cents worth, happy shopping, RR |
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I live in North Liberty where you do and have a 288 Sunsation that will be up for sale soon. It will be a bit higher priced than your budget, but let me know if its something you would ever want to take a look at! |
I agree with the above comment about sticking with stock power. BUT with 2 496 boats I’ve been around, they had a lot of electronic issues and to diagnose, they needed a mercury scan tool that cost several hundred $. Graduated college in 2010 and bought MY first boat, a 21’ Baja Hammer. It was a good first boat but it’s not for big water IMO. Small fresh water lakes it’s perfect. Never boated on the river so I cannot comment there. Since then, I’ve had a 19’ jet boat, 27, 29, and now a 32 Fountain.
A 27’ Fountain may be a good fit for you. On an aluminum trailer, it might be within your trucks towing capacity. I believe the dry weight is 4700 lbs. I’m partial to Fountains but early to mid 90s and up, they all have hydraulic steering and K plans. Not a standard feature on a lot of Bajas. I like the 502 mag the best so far. They are fuel injected so they start a lot easier than carb motors. 27 with a 502 would probably hit high 60s mph. Have decent stock reliable power. If this is a hobby you feel you will continue, don’t start off too small, you will alway want to go bigger. After a couple years the 27 will feel small. There are a lot of other nice boats out there like Nordic, Checkmate, Sunsation, Formula, and etc. but I cannot comment on them. |
What exactly is your tow vehicle? I think that may be your limiting factor. Remember, that Towing Capacity number is with NOTHING else in the vehicle, just the driver. Passengers, cargo, coolers, etc. etc. all subtract from your GCWR.
I had a 26' Sonic with a 500EFI on a cheap aluminum trailer for my first boat. It was 7280 lbs. total. My Tahoe was BARELY enough truck with a 7500 lbs. rating. https://scontent.fslc2-1.fna.fbcdn.n...b0&oe=5DBF2A42 |
NL resident as well. JKetels sunny would be a great boat has a fresh 500EFI in it but like he said a little above your budget. I know of another guy in town that might be looking to move his 25OL 496 mag (not HO) in the near future. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...e7a946f6d.jpeg |
What is your annual boat ownership cost budget?
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Many good suggestions and I'll add Velocity and Checkmate. Keep it simple with stock power. Trim tabs and external steering would be a plus. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by liberator221
(Post 4696283)
we went with powerquest over baja because it has more cockpit room. more space between back seat and front seats. all in whats important to youl
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Originally Posted by rak rua
(Post 4696291)
First boat and you're still young so if you enjoy it, there'll be many more..... If you buy a modified setup with big power and lots of work done, it's gonna cost you more on time and maintenance. That's the nature of the beast. All boats cost you money but the hotter ones cost you more. Twin engines are great but once again, more money on maintenance and a touch more on fuel. Don't get burnt buying too much boat first time round. Buy a single engine, stock power (probably 496 or 496ho) with a good history that's been cared for. Survey hull, particularly for wet transom/stringers. I reckon Baja is hard to beat, straight bottom, easy to drive and pretty good room onboard. A great boat to start with, and they look nice too. Outlaw Vs Islander....... up to you, whichever you prefer layout wise. My 2 cents worth, happy shopping, RR A single is the only thing I need (the reason for staying under 26') and would prefer not to pay for maintenance and fuel for two engines and drives. I was thinking an islander just because of the added room to bring friends, but prefer the looks of the outlaws. |
An open bow is going to give you more space and room for friends and coolers. You may want to look into a Cobalt open bow. They hold their value and are well built. Usually they came with the bigger motor as well. It may be a good way to get a boat that is into the 60mph range and not lose to much money if you decide you would prefer a cuddy and performance boat. Also with a being your first boat the open bow is easier to dock and grab lines with the open front.
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Originally Posted by JKetels
(Post 4696294)
I live in North Liberty where you do and have a 288 Sunsation that will be up for sale soon. It will be a bit higher priced than your budget, but let me know if its something you would ever want to take a look at!
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Originally Posted by jtbooten
(Post 4696304)
I agree with the above comment about sticking with stock power. BUT with 2 496 boats I’ve been around, they had a lot of electronic issues and to diagnose, they needed a mercury scan tool that cost several hundred $. Graduated college in 2010 and bought MY first boat, a 21’ Baja Hammer. It was a good first boat but it’s not for big water IMO. Small fresh water lakes it’s perfect. Never boated on the river so I cannot comment there. Since then, I’ve had a 19’ jet boat, 27, 29, and now a 32 Fountain.
A 27’ Fountain may be a good fit for you. On an aluminum trailer, it might be within your trucks towing capacity. I believe the dry weight is 4700 lbs. I’m partial to Fountains but early to mid 90s and up, they all have hydraulic steering and K plans. Not a standard feature on a lot of Bajas. I like the 502 mag the best so far. They are fuel injected so they start a lot easier than carb motors. 27 with a 502 would probably hit high 60s mph. Have decent stock reliable power. If this is a hobby you feel you will continue, don’t start off too small, you will alway want to go bigger. After a couple years the 27 will feel small. There are a lot of other nice boats out there like Nordic, Checkmate, Sunsation, Formula, and etc. but I cannot comment on them. I would probably stay away from a hammer or a boat with a shallow deadrise because the Mississippi can get pretty rough on the weekends. A fountain 27 sounds pretty nice with trim tabs and hydraulic steering. |
Originally Posted by Sydwayz
(Post 4696311)
What exactly is your tow vehicle? I think that may be your limiting factor. Remember, that Towing Capacity number is with NOTHING else in the vehicle, just the driver. Passengers, cargo, coolers, etc. etc. all subtract from your GCWR.
I had a 26' Sonic with a 500EFI on a cheap aluminum trailer for my first boat. It was 7280 lbs. total. My Tahoe was BARELY enough truck with a 7500 lbs. rating. |
Originally Posted by iaoutlaw
(Post 4696313)
NL resident as well. JKetels sunny would be a great boat has a fresh 500EFI in it but like he said a little above your budget. I know of another guy in town that might be looking to move his 25OL 496 mag (not HO) in the near future. I will have to keep my eye out for it, thanks. |
Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater
(Post 4696320)
What is your annual boat ownership cost budget?
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Originally Posted by Ing
(Post 4696322)
Many good suggestions and I'll add Velocity and Checkmate. Keep it simple with stock power. Trim tabs and external steering would be a plus. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by DBleil89
(Post 4696341)
An open bow is going to give you more space and room for friends and coolers. You may want to look into a Cobalt open bow. They hold their value and are well built. Usually they came with the bigger motor as well. It may be a good way to get a boat that is into the 60mph range and not lose to much money if you decide you would prefer a cuddy and performance boat. Also with a being your first boat the open bow is easier to dock and grab lines with the open front.
I have seen some cobalts advertised in a few different places, don't know much about them, but seem to command a good resale value. |
You are kidding yourself if you think you are going to tow a 26' big block boat with a Canyon. if keeping the truck is a must, you need to be looking at boats in the 21'-23' range with a small block.
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Originally Posted by snapmorgan
(Post 4696367)
You are kidding yourself if you think you are going to tow a 26' big block boat with a Canyon. if keeping the truck is a must, you need to be looking at boats in the 21'-23' range with a small block.
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My 242 on the trailer full of fuel weighs just over 6K.
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Originally Posted by snapmorgan
(Post 4696367)
You are kidding yourself if you think you are going to tow a 26' big block boat with a Canyon. if keeping the truck is a must, you need to be looking at boats in the 21'-23' range with a small block.
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Look at a 22’-24 powered by a 300xs Mercury outboard. 70+ mph, great on fuel, low maintenance and light enough to tow with your small truck. Checkmate builds a nice 24 that runs low 70’s with a open bow, high 70’s with a closed bow. Similar boats are made by both east and west coat builders. You should be able to find a good used one in the 30-40k price point. Outboard boats have a lot more room than the stern drives and at your age, you can haul a bigger crew which can be more fun. Good luck. Be careful especially until you have run enough to realize that things can happen fast. Have fun. |
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