OT/Cock Fighting
 

Tomorrow we vote on making Cock Fighting in Oklahoma illegal.

Personally, I have never been to a cock fight and have no desire to do so. I have no real preference on which way to vote other than I may vote against the issue just to piss off PETA and the other tree huggers.

Anyone have anything that should change my mind?

Larry,

You know if ya'll fried up them chickens when ya was done what's the difference?

I'm NOT a tree hugger nor a member of PETA, but in my opinion anyone who gets their jollies by watching any animal being totured is SICK, SICK, SICK ! :mad: :mad: :mad:

I think it's a stupid waste of legislative resources and ink!
Let the damn cocks go at it! What's the problem? We let two boxers go beat the **** out of eachother, let the chickens fight!

If you don't like it, don't go! [Why don't more people have this attitude?]

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You know what we get to vote for here in FL?

Whether or not pigs should be caged up for the duration of their pregnancy...WTF???????? All other pigs are caged...what's the problem...Some stupid knocked-up PETA ***** probably sympathized with a pig one day....:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Well said. I saw the commercial while I was in Ft. Lauderdale last week. They are trying to compare raised pigs (for food) with the family Black Lab.........:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:.

Cock Fighting

Sounds Gay :eek:

# of chickens that die each YEAR illegaly in cock fights 1500-2000
# if chickens that die DAILY for food consumption 1,000,000+

The Chicken is/was a Jungle Bird and fighting is something it’s ancestors have been doing for thousands of years .So what !:confused:

"Thanks to the hard work of countless dedicated activists who hit the streets and collected signatures for nearly two years, initiatives to help animals will be on the ballot in Florida, Arkansas, and Oklahoma this year."

"That was the hard part—now comes the easy part. If you are a registered voter in Florida, Arkansas, or Oklahoma, please make sure that you get out and vote “yes” (and encourage your friends, family, and coworkers to do the same) on the following ballot initiatives later this year:"



This is a quote from the PETA web page. Funny, I have heard many times over the past couple of weeks the supporters of the bill say that they have nothing to do with Peta and are not backed by PETA.

You don't think they would lie, do you?

there is something horribly wrong with us when we sit around and watch and enjoy an animals pain and misery:(

are they atleast going to have weight classes to make it even?

I have no interest in Cockfighting But see no harm in it. And could care less, I think the problem here in this Country is we lead a real “sterilized life” That our forefathers worked hard and bled for! We shop at the Store and buy Chicken already partially processed Like Boned Chicken Breast per Example. BTW Check out how those chickens were Raised!

Quick story; when I lived abroad there were Chicken stores with Live Chickens in Cages, You pick out your Bird/Birds (got real good at picking out tasty ones) and they would Slit their throat bleed them and remove the head feet and toss them into a Mechanized plucker and Presto.

Two minutes later out the Door with my Dinner! Home one minute later, A Shower and my Wife had the meal in the table with fresh vegetables 15 minutes FLAT now there is a vast difference in store and fresh!

Look what I am saying is we are loosing touch with reality everything is made to appear neat and clean, we are forgetting REALITY!

Maybe we Release the Lobsters Also LOL
:D

Believe me, I'm no tree hugger or bleeding heart liberal. I hunt and fish, but I can't see how anyone could enjoy this. Anyone that has seen animals fight to the death knows how horrible it can be. Here in Florida, they have fought chickens and dogs for generations, dog fighting is even worse. If I EVER found where a dog fight was taking place, I'd call every law enforcement agency I could find, and go there armed myself to stop it. I have two Pitbulls, and I know they would fight with another dog if they were put in that position, and one dog would die. I can't see someone getting jollies from seeing these loyal, loving dogs maim and kill each other. It reminds me of some of the rednecks up where I hunt hogs (with my dogs), they try to prove how tough they are by putting there dogs on big, mean hogs. My dogs catch hogs too, because they love it, and I love it, but I make every effort to protect them with kevlar vests and collars. Many of their dogs get killed and cut badly.

The difference between boxing and animal fighting, is the boxer is there by choice, in the animal it is instinct.


I know this topic was about chickens, but it pushes a button with me.

With all that being said, I think the government would find a better way of spending time and effort.:mad:

Here is the protection for my dogs.

"bullet proof" vests for dogs.. <shakin head> who would have ever guessed...

Live and let live...

Our world is too sugar-coated as it is...:(

I am not, nor would I be a participant in that sort of activity, but for those that are: Have at it. We dive into more and more isolation from the rest of the world everyday...Some people really should get out and see what the rest of the world is like.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Baja Daze
Live and let live...

Our world is too sugar-coated as it is...:(

I am not, nor would I be a participant in that sort of activity, but for those that are: Have at it. We dive into more and more isolation from the rest of the world everyday...Some people really should get out and see what the rest of the world is like. [
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thats because we are more civilized than most of the world, this kind of stuff has no place in a modern country, sorry

Civility is often confused with over-governed...

Were we not civilized 10, 20, 30 years ago?...All that's occurring every day is the advent of more restrictive laws and more intrusion into our everyday lives...:(

Well, I just voted against the proposal to make cock fighting illegal. I think cock fighting is a stupid form of entertainment, but I also feel it does less damage to our society than does PETA.
If I voted for this legislation it would help give PETA another foot in the door to propose more restrictive laws against hunting, fishing or other areas most people could not imagine.

We need to be very careful. Maybe we can't see how anyone enjoys this, remember we do not want to regulate what someone else enjoys. The tree huggers will say "I don't know why anyone enjoys going faster than 30 mph in their boat, so we should not allow it." Then they will say that these high performance boaters are using too much gas increasing our dependence on the the middle east. They're also burning hole in the ozone with all those emmisions. We should regulate all boats so they don't use more than 5 gph. We should also institute pollution controls that are even more strict then those in the automotive industry. Boating is entertainment so people really don't need it. Even if you don't agree with cock fighting we need to support those people, at least that way the tree huggers will have something else to focus on instead of moving on to the next victum.
This crap needs to stop or one day it will affect one of your passions as it already is in FL and possibly in NJ.

That's exactly my point Mr_Velocity. Thanks!
Everyone enjoys and does different things.

This silly cock-fighting for example...is very well rooted deep in some cultures. Not mine, but others.

I fish and have hunted...However, there are some people would want nothing more than to abolish that sort of behavior...

Your boating analogy is perfect. Some people out there think the worst of us. After all, what's all this senseless speed and gas-guzzling all about? Do you really need another 400 horsepower?

Think people...The more you regulate certain recreational behaviors out of existance(that's been around a lot longer than any of us)...the worse our way of life will become.

What's next?...These are all stepping stones for special interest. They will get bored and start screwing some other sport when this is completed.

Like I've said before...It's not something on my list of favorite activities, I wouldn't even think of attending, but it is for some.

*Good choice, Tulsa Larry;)

I think I'll have a chicken sandwich for lunch today!!! :D :D

Well guys I have to admit: I`ve been to one cock fight. It wasn`t particularly entertaining, but I say- To each his own...
It`s like all the other stuff in our world: There is a time and place for it and there are those who are deeply interested in cock fighting. Besides, I don`t know the exact reason for cock fighting, if it is for entertainment or for profit$$$$ There is prize money awarded and when I went, there was a considerable amount of illegal gambling going on.....
Just my .02

If cock fighting is a tradition deeply rooted in some cultures - thank God I'm not part of THAT culture!

:mad: :mad: :mad:

As to the comparison of cock fighting to boating - give me a break! I hope you are just trying to be argumentive and not really trying to make a valid point. I've seen too much intelligence on this board to even consider that one. :confused:

...Exactly!

I just wish they’d get back to the good old fashioned cock fighting, 2 birds in the ring, espolón a espolón. This new crap with the steroid pumped roosters strutting around talking trash before the fight, the fireworks, the pay-per-view, the managers jumping into the ring when the ref’s back is turned and hitting their roosters’ opponent with a folding chair is just plain out of hand. And we know the outcome is predetermined. Is nothing sacred anymore???

dont know what you people are up to out west but , but im keeping my zipper up !!

LMAO :D :D :D

Do you really think? Be glad you're not part of that culture but what gives anyone the right to change a deep rooted culture?

Consider this, some old lady loses her husband to a cruiser that wasn't capable of more than 25 mph. So what does she do, she lobbies our legeslature and gets a bill up that will limit all boat traffic to 30 mph in NJ. WHY??? What does a slow cruiser have to do with fast boats???? Why are they going after us? Why instead didn't she pass a law that doesn't allow the use of autopilots in NJ coastal waters since THAT was the problem. "They" will keep taking away your rights if you let them. Today it's your cock, what will it be tomorrow?

what gives us the right to change a deep rooted culture?

morality for one, things like slavery, marrying at 13, having more than one wife, and alot more are deep rooted in certain cultures yet we outlaw them because of morality.

common sense says that watching two animals fight to the death is just wrong and if you cant see this you have even more problems than you think.:(

That is about as funny as the subject matter.
The problem with Cock fighting is that it needs to be done in dark backrooms of bars on the wrong side of the tracks. Not out in the open where people can see and get in trouble for gambling...or worse, get taxed for there winnings!!! We need to keep Cock Fights Hidden, Underground if you will, Like Hookers and Milli Vanilli Fan cubs.....I have already said to much, but I think you will all agree!

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Your real enemy here is Colonel Harland Sanders You should carry your cause and its fight to protect all the chicken’s to the doorstep of KFC

Look next time you need to pick a Live Bird for lunch Look for bright eyes good color to the beak and small crown large thick legs again with good yellow color and good feathers and a rounded body shape umm Yum !

KFC Original Recipe Fried Chicken



Yield: 12 pieces

Ingredients
6 c Crisco cooking oil
1 Egg; beaten
2 c Milk
2 c Flour
4 tb Salt
2 ts Black pepper
1 ts MSG
2 Frying chickens; with skin, cut into 6 pieces


Instructions
1. Bring oil in pressure cooker over medium heat to about 400 deg F.
2. In a small bowl, combine the egg and milk. In a separate bowl, combine the remaining four dry ingredients. Dip each piece of chicken into the milk until fully moistened, then roll in flour mixture until completely coated. In groups of four or five, drop the covered chicken pieces into the oil and lock the lid in place.
3. When steam begins shooting through the pressure release, set the timer for 10 min. After 10 min, release pressure according to manufacturer's instructions, and remove the chicken to paper towels or metal rack to drain. Repeat with remaining chicken.



BTW Do you still have the “Angela Davis Lounge" at the University of Michigan that would go a long way in explaining a few things to me LOL:p :p :p :p

The campaign is over, the votes have been cast and the ballots have been counted, PETA wins. Cock fighting will no longer be legal in the state of Oklahoma. The big question is what other hidden language is in the bill which might affect hunting, fishing, rodeos or recreation in general. We will see.