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flat rate 08-28-2019 06:12 PM

RWO Clearwater and key west
 
Received a email today from RWO about the Clearwater and key west races. Says don’t believe the rumors and teams are signed up. Says a big band is playing Thursday in key west. Anyone know what teams have confirmed to go? Just curious if we should go.

flat rate 08-28-2019 06:15 PM

I did talk to a victory team guy Friday at the shootout. I asked if they were doing key west. He said no but RWO was really trying to get them to go and offered free hotel rooms. He said they just laughed that it want even 5% of there budget.

low_psi 08-28-2019 07:38 PM

RWO posted on their FB page stating the Clearwater race is now part of the 6 race APBA point series. I call BShttps://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...69228b58ed.png

Mike A. 08-28-2019 08:55 PM

In case anyone wonders why APBA has been growing increasingly insignificant for the past 20 years, this is it. OPA and P-1 put APBA back on the Offshore map and the first chance APBA gets to screw them, their members, and the sport, the APBA poo bahs take it. Pathetic. I know Smitty is too much of a gentleman to say anything, which is why he is going strong after 16 years, and I only lasted five, but if it were my decision, 2019 would be the last year OPA had anything to do with APBA.

low_psi 08-28-2019 09:45 PM

Has there been an official announcement from APBA? I can’t believe they would add a 7th race to a 6 points race schedule after they have completed 5 of the 6 races.....

Mike A. 08-28-2019 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by low_psi (Post 4704447)
Has there been an official announcement from APBA? I can’t believe they would add a 7th race to a 6 points race schedule after they have completed 5 of the 6 races.....

That is not what they did. APBA simply agreed to give RWO a sanction for Clearwater and KW. RWO is now promoting those two get togethers under false pretenses to convince people to attend. The only way to win an APBA national championship is to participate in the six OPA/P1 races, including Englewood. Clearwater and KW are meaningless. And by doing what it did to OPA/P1 and all of the racers who have supported them, APBA is heading for the same fate.

low_psi 08-28-2019 10:51 PM

RWO is claiming the Clearwater race is now included in the 6 (now according to RWO 7) race points series. That’s the part I am calling BS on.

Mike A. 08-29-2019 03:56 AM


Originally Posted by low_psi (Post 4704454)
RWO is claiming the Clearwater race is now included in the 6 (now according to RWO 7) race points series. That’s the part I am calling BS on.

And you should. That’s a lie. Let them or an APBA official come here and say otherwise.

klaatutooyou 08-29-2019 07:39 AM

BATTLE !!!!! lol

Crude Intentions 08-29-2019 07:43 AM

It’s up to the racers. If they want offshore racing to thrive they will continue to race under one organization keeping boat counts and excitement up. The racers determine the direction of the sport. Nobody else.

Nate5.0 08-29-2019 10:04 AM

No hope here for a good Clearwater race.

Mike A. 08-29-2019 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by Nate5.0 (Post 4704526)
No hope here for a good Clearwater race.

Zero, which is a shame. The promoter is a great guy and has done an amazing job building that event. Terrible shame he was so badly mislead.

Nate5.0 08-29-2019 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Mike A. (Post 4704534)


Zero, which is a shame. .

Agreed, this location is a great race location with a lot of fans. While I do think it can be a bad display this year I do feel that the area loves it enough that if 2020 can bring back the "glory days" then the area will quickly forget about whatever comes of this year.

Knot 4 Me 08-29-2019 12:01 PM

We were already locked into Key West this year before the whole RWO sh!t show. Will be interesting to see boat count and how the whole weekend compares to the past under SBI. How OPA/P1 didn't get that contract is beyond me. Might be my last November KW trip for awhile. If they F up cost/amenities out on the sea wall where we go each race day to view the action I'll be pizzed.

payuppsucker 08-29-2019 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 4704555)
We were already locked into Key West this year before the whole RWO sh!t show. Will be interesting to see boat count and how the whole weekend compares to the past under SBI. How OPA/P1 didn't get that contract is beyond me. Might be my last November KW trip for awhile. If they F up cost/amenities out on the sea wall where we go each race day to view the action I'll be pizzed.

Same

payuppsucker 08-29-2019 12:37 PM

Hope they get Dorian's aftermath cleaned up by November.

1HYPER1 08-29-2019 12:43 PM

I was told that all of the Supercat teams voted and they are going to Key West and not Englewood Florida and if this is true you already have fragmentation from the origional 2019 agreements,same crap different year

Knot 4 Me 08-29-2019 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by 1HYPER1 (Post 4704569)
I was told that all of the Supercat teams voted and they are going to Key West and not Englewood Florida and if this is true you already have fragmentation from the origional 2019 agreements,same crap different year

All I know is I talked to Myrick a week ago at the PBC party and he said they will be there along with some other Super Cat teams. He didn't say if it was all the Super Cat teams. For some reason I got the feeling all wouldn't be there but I didn't ask for clarification.

Mike A. 08-29-2019 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by 1HYPER1 (Post 4704569)
I was told that all of the Supercat teams voted and they are going to Key West and not Englewood Florida and if this is true you already have fragmentation from the origional 2019 agreements,same crap different year

Would not surprise me at all given the class ringleader who has always managed to make and break commitments for his own self-interest, while convincing others to follow him over the cliff. If it were me, and this vote actually occurred, then that guy’s last race with me would be his last race with me. Someone should remind them that a single catamaran class with 5-7 boats is not a viable stand alone product in the US.

thisistank 08-29-2019 01:28 PM

Drama!

We'll be there. I'll let you all know how it goes if you're not going. But it will be coming from a waaaaaaaay outside of racing perspective.

Seriously, I actually dig offshore powerboats, racing, running, watching, etc. and I can't even keep up with this crap. Fragmentations, who's doing what, who gets what race, who's going, who's not...This is why the whole sport is a CLUSTER F*CK. If you can't even hold the interest of someone like me that actually digs it, how the hell does anyone expect someone from outside the bubble (like big sponsors) to take any of this serious? Sorry to say but the offshore races could completely disappear and the key west "worlds week" aka FPC poker run would go on. Someone (nudge, hint, wink Stu) will stand up and put together a shootout, fun runs, street party, etc etc and the party will keep on truckin'. Die hard race fans won't go anymore I guess. Problem is, that's a small group. Offshore racing needs to get their sh!t together, for real. Everyone needs to sit at the table and unite and figure this crap out once and for all. Too many egos, too much greed, too much BULLSH!T!

Ok, rant over. sorry.

klaatutooyou 08-29-2019 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4704582)
Drama!

We'll be there. I'll let you all know how it goes if you're not going. But it will be coming from a waaaaaaaay outside of racing perspective.

Seriously, I actually dig offshore powerboats, racing, running, watching, etc. and I can't even keep up with this crap. Fragmentations, who's doing what, who gets what race, who's going, who's not...This is why the whole sport is a CLUSTER F*CK. If you can't even hold the interest of someone like me that actually digs it, how the hell does anyone expect someone from outside the bubble (like big sponsors) to take any of this serious? Sorry to say but the offshore races could completely disappear and the key west "worlds week" aka FPC poker run would go on. Someone (nudge, hint, wink Stu) will stand up and put together a shootout, fun runs, street party, etc etc and the party will keep on truckin'. Die hard race fans won't go anymore I guess. Problem is, that's a small group. Offshore racing needs to get their sh!t together, for real. Everyone needs to sit at the table and unite and figure this crap out once and for all. Too many egos, too much greed, too much BULLSH!T!

Ok, rant over. sorry.

This post should be posted at the head of every offshore racing thread .
it would save time reading the same old thing year after year after year after...………………………..

t500hps 08-29-2019 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 4704555)
We were already locked into Key West this year before the whole RWO sh!t show. Will be interesting to see boat count and how the whole weekend compares to the past under SBI. How OPA/P1 didn't get that contract is beyond me. Might be my last November KW trip for awhile. If they F up cost/amenities out on the sea wall where we go each race day to view the action I'll be pizzed.


Originally Posted by payuppsucker (Post 4704564)
Same

same/same

hoping it's still going to be a good time. Hell, It's FL when it's cold back home.......can't be THAT bad! If this becomes crap I'll just wait a little later in the winter and go to the mainland where it's alot cheaper!

payuppsucker 08-29-2019 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by t500hps (Post 4704624)
same/same

hoping it's still going to be a good time. Hell, It's FL when it's cold back home.......can't be THAT bad! If this becomes crap I'll just wait a little later in the winter and go to the mainland where it's alot cheaper!

Looking forward to seeing y’all down there Russ

sbracing 08-30-2019 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4704582)
Drama!

We'll be there. I'll let you all know how it goes if you're not going. But it will be coming from a waaaaaaaay outside of racing perspective.

Seriously, I actually dig offshore powerboats, racing, running, watching, etc. and I can't even keep up with this crap. Fragmentations, who's doing what, who gets what race, who's going, who's not...This is why the whole sport is a CLUSTER F*CK. If you can't even hold the interest of someone like me that actually digs it, how the hell does anyone expect someone from outside the bubble (like big sponsors) to take any of this serious? Sorry to say but the offshore races could completely disappear and the key west "worlds week" aka FPC poker run would go on. Someone (nudge, hint, wink Stu) will stand up and put together a shootout, fun runs, street party, etc etc and the party will keep on truckin'. Die hard race fans won't go anymore I guess. Problem is, that's a small group. Offshore racing needs to get their sh!t together, for real. Everyone needs to sit at the table and unite and figure this crap out once and for all. Too many egos, too much greed, too much BULLSH!T!

Ok, rant over. sorry.

Frankly the only drama is about Key West. The APBA/OPA/P1 union has 10 races scheduled , 6 being the APBA National Championship Series, the others OPA points races and the OPA Worlds. ST. Clair and Michigan City both had over 50 boats. The sport hasn't been this strong in a long time. If RWO wants to do their own thing, the racers will decide where to race. Dunkirk no matter how you spin it was a disaster as a boat race. It may have been a successful event, but not a boat race. We will see how Clearwater fairs. Regardless of their newfound APBA sanction, the majority of APBA/OPA/P1 bracket racers will be in Ocean City, MD that weekend.

Knot 4 Me 08-30-2019 07:29 AM

Did my first Michigan City race this year and the boat count and spectator count was impressive. Prime example of what uniting can do for the sport.

klaatutooyou 08-30-2019 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by Mike A. (Post 4704579)


Would not surprise me at all given the class ringleader who has always managed to make and break commitments for his own self-interest, while convincing others to follow him over the cliff. If it were me, and this vote actually occurred, then that guy’s last race with me would be his last race with me. Someone should remind them that a single catamaran class with 5-7 boats is not a viable stand alone product in the US.


Yup I think it,s a family business thing .All CRAP goes downhill.Even the best plmbrs cant change that rule


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