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TYPHOON 03-20-2020 12:55 PM

Opportunity
 
Ok Brainiac's I'm an optimist personality. In stead of doom and glume I see potential. Lots of smart business minded people out there so who has some ideas to take advantage of this opportunity. I am NOT saying take advantage of anyone that is down !!!!! Looking for places that will need to be filled due to the onslaught of need.

resurrected 03-20-2020 01:20 PM

Disinfection service for private services like cabs, with an electrostatic sprayer (funny thing is some are made in Wu Han China)

TYPHOON 03-21-2020 11:56 AM

I used to do duct cleaning and sanitizing for homes and businesses. Its a fairly inexpensive business to get into. Also selling and installing UV lights in ductwork which kills viruses.

noli 03-21-2020 12:19 PM

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food, grocery and other goods deliveries




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Cash Bar 03-21-2020 12:38 PM

I'm not sure where you would start specifically, but I think there will be a lot more kids schooled at home after this. Finding some education pros and building a structured plan would be a good start.

Maybe a similar idea to how colleges do online classes, but for all ages and core subjects.

1960brookwood 03-21-2020 01:32 PM

Installation and support for home based businesses. My millennial son in law is a process and manufacturing engineer and he seems to spend most of his time lately assisting the older folks who have never chosen to worked remotely.

My wife and I work for a large contract office furniture manufacturer and the thought is that our core business will literally need to change overnight. The wisdom of cramming lots of people close together in cubicles is likely to be challenged soon.

noli 03-21-2020 02:56 PM

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this is the train from Princeton-NJ to NYC

usually by this time of any Saturday afternoon the trains are packed going to NYC to dine and go to broadway shows, workers going to work, etc

now its empty !

'cmon scientists, lets get a fix for this



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Nothing personel 353 03-21-2020 04:23 PM

If China is telling truth no new cases so as time goes by it may go away??Cross your fingers!

Nothing personel 353 03-21-2020 04:26 PM

Health & delivery services?

Pure Energy 03-21-2020 04:32 PM

Copper!

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/x...65yYry5lIRRmMo

willknotsign 03-21-2020 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by Nothing personel 353 (Post 4730311)
If China is telling truth no new cases so as time goes by it may go away??Cross your fingers!

China is lying!

ICDEDPPL 03-21-2020 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by TYPHOON (Post 4730285)
I used to do duct cleaning and sanitizing for homes and businesses. Its a fairly inexpensive business to get into. Also selling and installing UV lights in ductwork which kills viruses.


I had some facebook ads running for indoor air quality (plasma) equipment. Things that I`ve tested in my home and that I know really work. Got called a "vulture", okay fine, took it down.
Same idiots that went out and bought TP instead .

zz28zz 03-21-2020 09:27 PM

Any thoughts on using ozone to kill covid-19? I found an article that said a 20 sec exposure would kill SARS which is a close cousin. I'm not talking about using it where people, plants or animals are present but more like the interior of a car overnight or an unoccupied dwelling that lends itself to being well ventilated afterwards. I know from experience it does eliminate odors.

scarabman 03-22-2020 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by Pure Energy (Post 4730313)

Read that same article a couple days ago and was talking about it with friends. Pretty interesting.

On another note related to OPs question, yes, whose got what ideas, because I will be all but out of business by the time this is over!

Jupiter Sunsation 03-22-2020 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by scarabman (Post 4730369)

On another note related to OPs question, yes, whose got what ideas, because I will be all but out of business by the time this is over!

My buddy is a car dealer up north, Gov ordered sales side of dealerships closed, he laughed and said nobody was even looking to buy cars this week. Even huge dealerships are cutting staff on service side, nobody is bringing in cars. He expects to have a meeting Monday morning to figure out how many people get cut (could be 90)

1960brookwood 03-22-2020 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4730370)
My buddy is a car dealer up north, Gov ordered sales side of dealerships closed, he laughed and said nobody was even looking to buy cars this week. Even huge dealerships are cutting staff on service side, nobody is bringing in cars. He expects to have a meeting Monday morning to figure out how many people get cut (could be 90)

My daughter worked her way up from order entry to supply chain manager for a company that sells reservation systems to many of the larger hotels and resort communities. They are having the same meeting tomorrow and the entire supply and fulfillment team may shrink to her and a tech guy-- almost nothing to sell and no demand.

And just that quickly the decision became irrelevant--The entire county that she works in has been shut down for 2 weeks!

Interceptor 03-22-2020 11:28 AM

Barbershops, hair salons and spa are being closed . Every man will need a haircut, every woman will need the works after they climb out of their bomb shelter.

thirdchildhood 03-22-2020 11:45 AM

I just bought two beautiful female German Shepherd pups, Coco & Snickers. I'm getting back into breeding. Doesn't have much to do with the current situation except that maybe more folks will be looking for guard dogs! 🐶

hogie roll 03-22-2020 12:03 PM

Medical supply chains will be brought back to the US. Drug manufacturing and medical equipment. I think there will be some efforts to bring other production sectors back to the US as well but I’m not exactly sure which ones.

Excess 03-22-2020 02:29 PM

Cannabis. Everting will be irie, mon

scarabman 03-23-2020 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4730370)
My buddy is a car dealer up north, Gov ordered sales side of dealerships closed, he laughed and said nobody was even looking to buy cars this week. Even huge dealerships are cutting staff on service side, nobody is bringing in cars. He expects to have a meeting Monday morning to figure out how many people get cut (could be 90)

Was just talking to a friend yesterday who is a Master Tech for a Caddy dealership (same owner for like 20 Caddy dealerships in multiple states), and his location layed off 15 service techs so far, and he is next on the list.

Wally 03-23-2020 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by zz28zz (Post 4730333)
Any thoughts on using ozone to kill covid-19? I found an article that said a 20 sec exposure would kill SARS which is a close cousin. I'm not talking about using it where people, plants or animals are present but more like the interior of a car overnight or an unoccupied dwelling that lends itself to being well ventilated afterwards. I know from experience it does eliminate odors.

Ive got an ozone generator at home. Used it multiple times to get smells out of the house after burning food or painting etc....used it plenty to take the funk out of a few cars in the past. The stuff works. I don't know how good it is against bacteria/viruses but i have read many of the same articles saying it kills them fast So i don't see why not use one. The one thing i will say is if you let it go too long and get the concentration up there then you can get some corrosion of cheap metals. I lent it to a buddy that had a mold problem in a bathroom. The machine i have does 10,000mg of ozone output and for small areas like a bathroom you only need it on for like 3-4 minutes. Instead of doing a few small rounds like they recommend, he just let the machine keep going for like an hour....it rusted all the hinges and screws on the vanity and medicine cabinet :D

Quinlan 03-23-2020 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by 1960brookwood (Post 4730296)
Installation and support for home based businesses. My millennial son in law is a process and manufacturing engineer and he seems to spend most of his time lately assisting the older folks who have never chosen to worked remotely.

My wife and I work for a large contract office furniture manufacturer and the thought is that our core business will literally need to change overnight. The wisdom of cramming lots of people close together in cubicles is likely to be challenged soon.

Which manufacture? Most are in Michigan that is true. We mostly do Herman Miller for a local dealer here, but have done most of them over the years.
I am an installation co in OK for 25 years now. It has slowed here but so far not shut down. My warehouses are getting full of chit people wont let us deliver yet though.

It is a different world now.

1960brookwood 03-24-2020 04:33 AM


Originally Posted by Quinlan (Post 4730474)
Which manufacture? Most are in Michigan that is true. We mostly do Herman Miller for a local dealer here, but have done most of them over the years.
I am an installation co in OK for 25 years now. It has slowed here but so far not shut down. My warehouses are getting full of chit people wont let us deliver yet though.

It is a different world now.

Haworth. The company is playing it fast and loose with our State of Michigan shutdown. Trying to call stuff in the warehouse and manufacturing going to defense and the medical field critical and forcing people to work--most of that product will still be sitting in boxes and bulk packs in a warehouse with guys like you when this is over.

Jupiter Sunsation 03-24-2020 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by scarabman (Post 4730463)
Was just talking to a friend yesterday who is a Master Tech for a Caddy dealership (same owner for like 20 Caddy dealerships in multiple states), and his location layed off 15 service techs so far, and he is next on the list.



Tough call, the techs are paid on work done so if nobody is bring in cars then the techs are sitting on their tool boxes making zero anyway. The guy I know said he needs to cut the workers so they can start collecting unemployment. If he doesn't cut them, technically they still have a job...........can't collect.


Played golf with a dentist on Sunday. His office is closed, emergency stuff only. His staff wants to get paid but with zero revenue coming in that is tough to do for a solo dentist unless he wants to fund their wages with his own money. He expects to be slow even when things reopen, people will use any excuse to skip the dentist!


Italian restaurant I used to go to regularly closed Saturday. Owner has been in the business 30+ years. He closed the restaurant, told everyone (29 people) they no longer have jobs. He said "IF" he re-opens then it won't be until October since the summers in Florida are "no money seasons" and the restaurant will just bleed money until the snowbirds return. He said he rather stay home and work on his tan than lose his retirement hoping the restaurant comes back.


3 different industries (cars, healthcare, restaurants) all getting smoked. Normally not all three would get hammered at the same time (dentistry seems relatively recession proof, cosmetic stuff would cancel) but the group of 100+ employees are out of work, the cars/restaurants have zero chance of being hired on elsewhere. The dental staff will get back to work but its not like they will be able to get hired anywhere else either in the short term.

Craney 03-24-2020 05:12 PM

How do you think the real estate market will be?

Jupiter Sunsation 03-24-2020 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by Craney (Post 4730683)
How do you think the real estate market will be?

Varies by region. Rates still low, inventory is fine but I think if someone has a job that was paused/eliminated they won't be buying anytime soon. I think areas like Las Vegas will get temporarily stalled. Boomers will likely still move towards retirement homes but their budgets might shrink in correlation to their 401K balances and moving might get complicated if their primary residence doesn't sell.

1960brookwood 03-24-2020 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by 1960brookwood (Post 4730583)
Haworth. The company is playing it fast and loose with our State of Michigan shutdown. Trying to call stuff in the warehouse and manufacturing going to defense and the medical field critical and forcing people to work--most of that product will still be sitting in boxes and bulk packs in a warehouse with guys like you when this is over.

And just that quickly things made an about face. Our governor set up a hotline for the working class that thought they were being unfairly classified by their employers.
Meeting at 11:00--mandatory work canceled and anyone free to leave immediately at the conclusion of the meeting. Sad to see that the monkeys running the circus have so little regard for the people on the front lines.

HabanaJoe 03-24-2020 07:40 PM

This is what we are doing https://oakmontenv.com/coronavirus-s...-ny-nj-ct-nyc/ it is short term as is every outbreak. The calls have not started yet but expect it pretty soon, it might be 2-3 months work then back to killing bed bugs! So if anyone along the East Coast is in need or is interested in selling the service short term to assisted living type places, people who just want their home "germ free" we do travel, we've gone to FL a few time - Thanks!

Keith Atlanta 03-24-2020 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by zz28zz (Post 4730333)
Any thoughts on using ozone to kill covid-19? I found an article that said a 20 sec exposure would kill SARS which is a close cousin. I'm not talking about using it where people, plants or animals are present but more like the interior of a car overnight or an unoccupied dwelling that lends itself to being well ventilated afterwards. I know from experience it does eliminate odors.


There is a company that has this technology in Florida but use UV and it is very effective. If you want details PM me.

zz28zz 03-25-2020 02:42 AM


Originally Posted by Wally (Post 4730473)
Ive got an ozone generator at home. Used it multiple times to get smells out of the house after burning food or painting etc....used it plenty to take the funk out of a few cars in the past. The stuff works. I don't know how good it is against bacteria/viruses but i have read many of the same articles saying it kills them fast So i don't see why not use one. The one thing i will say is if you let it go too long and get the concentration up there then you can get some corrosion of cheap metals. I lent it to a buddy that had a mold problem in a bathroom. The machine i have does 10,000mg of ozone output and for small areas like a bathroom you only need it on for like 3-4 minutes. Instead of doing a few small rounds like they recommend, he just let the machine keep going for like an hour....it rusted all the hinges and screws on the vanity and medicine cabinet :D

I was using mine to sterilize various items before bringing them in the house. Truck has a camper top so I was using the bed area for the sterilization process. Noticed today a pair of Snap-on pliers laying in the bed got a complete coat of surface rust, grrrrrr. They've had 2 pretty strong treatments. By your recommendations, I went waay beyond.. Using same output gen as yours, I was setting timer for 20 mins then let it soak for a couple of hours. Figured better too much then not enough. Didn't notice any hardware rusting but I wasn't really looking. Guess I'll need a gizmo that measures ozone levels,, and maybe a better place to do it. :D

Found an older study abt using ozone and it's effectiveness killing enclosed and open viruses at 2 different humidity levels (40% and 90%). The higher the humidity, the more effective it was and was very effective on the enclosed viruses like covid-19. Study also found it didn't matter where in a room the test sample was located inferring complete area coverage.


HabanaJoe 03-25-2020 04:52 AM

zz28zz - Covid-19 has a built in defense for below 20% and above 80% RH if you are trying to make it inactive try to hit that 50% range also you can just heat to 133F with a 50% RH and in a short time (30min) it's inactive.

Quinlan 03-25-2020 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by 1960brookwood (Post 4730692)
And just that quickly things made an about face. Our governor set up a hotline for the working class that thought they were being unfairly classified by their employers.
Meeting at 11:00--mandatory work canceled and anyone free to leave immediately at the conclusion of the meeting. Sad to see that the monkeys running the circus have so little regard for the people on the front lines.

Yep- My distribution guy at Herman Miller called yesterday said the 3 trucks I was expecting Friday and next week are No GO. Said 3 weeks as per your Goddess Gov lol.
Wild for sure. Our Gov here in OK pretty much has done the same thing starting at Midnight tonight- told all Non Essential to go home for 3 weeks. OK has only a little over 100 cases in the whole dam State- Scare Mongers.

We will still be working until they start writing me tickets.

Wally 03-25-2020 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by zz28zz (Post 4730715)
I was using mine to sterilize various items before bringing them in the house. Truck has a camper top so I was using the bed area for the sterilization process. Noticed today a pair of Snap-on pliers laying in the bed got a complete coat of surface rust, grrrrrr. They've had 2 pretty strong treatments. By your recommendations, I went waay beyond.. Using same output gen as yours, I was setting timer for 20 mins then let it soak for a couple of hours. Figured better too much then not enough. Didn't notice any hardware rusting but I wasn't really looking. Guess I'll need a gizmo that measures ozone levels,, and maybe a better place to do it. :D

Found an older study abt using ozone and it's effectiveness killing enclosed and open viruses at 2 different humidity levels (40% and 90%). The higher the humidity, the more effective it was and was very effective on the enclosed viruses like covid-19. Study also found it didn't matter where in a room the test sample was located inferring complete area coverage.

From what i have read online thus far...they say it takes as little as 0.3ppm of ozone exposed for around 3min to kill most organisms. My machine has a small table of "suggested run times" based on sqft of the areas and they say to target 1 to 2 ppm of ozone and let it sit for an hour. I have read that after an hour it breaks back down to regular O2....so if the machine is too small and cant fill the area in an hours time then its pointless as the new ozone generated wont go any further then the stuff that's all ready breaking down.
I had a delivery of kitchen cabinets yesterday and wife is all ready freaked out about whats going go in the world and wanted to leave the cabinets in the garage for 3 days before bringing them in the house.....i want this project done so i made some plastic walls in the dining room after clearing it all out and had the delivery guys put all the boxes in there. I then ran the ozone machine for about 4min (based on the room size) and then we went for a walk around the neighborhood just to get some fresh air and break things up.....when we got home you could still smell some of the oxone but i was faint. Nothing that was bothering anyone....and she was ok with going forward with the project :D

Perlmudder 03-25-2020 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by Craney (Post 4730683)
How do you think the real estate market will be?

The Toronto commercial real estate market will come out okay. This will take a toll on our spring numbers, but still hopeful for a strong fall. Obviously, right now retail, office and hospitality are taking it on the chin, multifamily hasn't felt the impacts yet (although rent is due on the 1st), and industrial is appears to be the surprisingly resilient. I focus on apartments and have been on the phone everyday so far with clients, and most are seeing this as a 6 month issue and things being back to normal in 18 months. The reality is anyone who is opportunistic and has deep pockets will do well these next couple months, if you're leveraged to the hilt in sub prime areas, batten down the hatches and be read to start bailing.

zz28zz 03-25-2020 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by HabanaJoe (Post 4730717)
zz28zz - Covid-19 has a built in defense for below 20% and above 80% RH if you are trying to make it inactive try to hit that 50% range also you can just heat to 133F with a 50% RH and in a short time (30min) it's inactive.

First I've heard abt the 20% and 80% RH barriers. Happen to have a link? Thx!


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