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sandslot 08-01-2020 08:44 PM

Fountain Fever 27 Performance
 
Hi, I’m looking for opinions on how well a Fountain Fever 27 does on rough water? I currently have a Donzi Classic Blackhawk 22, so I’m used to descent rough water performance. Is the Fountain better by a little, substantially better or worse than the Blackhawk?

I would appreciate hearing some opinions.

thank you

snapmorgan 08-01-2020 10:36 PM

I have never been in a 22 Donzi, but a 27 Fountain does better than expected in the rough. My guess is that it would be substantially better, but again, I have no real world experience in a Donzi.

JPEROG 08-01-2020 10:55 PM

Jim Valeko out of Grand Rapids had a 27 that ran really strong. The boat was named "Heads Up' as he is a cylinder head specialist. If you can track him down, he had the fastest one that I have ever seen and ran it out of Grand Haven a lot.

Joe

Delo1142 08-02-2020 09:18 AM

I don't have any experience with the Blackhawk but I have a 27 that I run in the Detroit River area and Lake Erie/St Claire. It handles chop to 3's well, anything bigger than that it gets pretty rough.

Too Stroked 08-02-2020 09:37 AM

I've driven both hulls. The Donzi 22 is the softest riding 22 on the planet in my humble opinion. The 27 Fountain - and many folks will call it a 25' - rides ok, but it was not one of Reggie's better designs. (The 29' Fountain with the same power is actually faster and more capable in rough water.) The cabin on the 27 is ridiculous, but it's a hell of a lot bigger than what you have on the 22 Donzi - which has nothing. The Fountain is a bit of a handful with anything more than stock power, but the 22 Donzi has some unique handling traits too - as documented in Powerboat magazine. (They tend to fall off the inside chine in sharp, low speed turns.) While I've personally experienced this in a Donzi, I've never experienced anything weird in a 27' Fountain.

As for which one takes rough water better, the Fountain is a bit heavier and a bit longer, has more freeboard, but a bit wider in beam. Believe it or not, I'd call this one close to a draw, but the Fountain will feel a bit safer.

thirdchildhood 08-02-2020 09:55 AM

As a fellow Donzi 22 Classic owner and your neighbor, I'm sure the Fountain will handle rough water better but it won't be as fast. If it were me I'd try to find a Donzi 27 ZR with a 525. 🙂

smokediver 08-02-2020 10:03 AM

I had a 27 fever with a 496 mag ho. Great boat and ran well. Also had a Blackhawk 22. I have a standard 22 classic now. It fits in my garage. Love the boat. The fountain ran 72 gps. A great built boat. I felt it had a higher finish level over Donzi. A 27zr would be close. The 27 fever has a smaller fuel tank. I think 50 gallons or so.

SABER28 08-02-2020 10:44 AM

they should be exactly the same since they are the same length. lol. sorry just tweeking the beak boats.

sandslot 08-02-2020 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by thirdchildhood (Post 4751051)
As a fellow Donzi 22 Classic owner and your neighbor, I'm sure the Fountain will handle rough water better but it won't be as fast. If it were me I'd try to find a Donzi 27 ZR with a 525. 🙂

thanks and good hearing from you. I was trying to understand what kind of gains go with the bigger boats. I like my BH, but it does take some length to dial in when passengers change! Hard to do on a small lake!

sandslot 08-02-2020 12:58 PM

[QUOTE=thirdchildhood;4751051]As a fellow Donzi 22 Classic owner and your neighbor, I'm sure the Fountain will handle rough water better but it won't be as fast. If it were me I'd try to find a Donzi 27 ZR with a 525. 🙂[/QUOTE

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Rookie 08-02-2020 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by JPEROG (Post 4750994)
Jim Valeko out of Grand Rapids had a 27 that ran really strong. The boat was named "Heads Up' as he is a cylinder head specialist. If you can track him down, he had the fastest one that I have ever seen and ran it out of Grand Haven a lot.

Joe

I've been in and have seat time running the above mentioned boat with Jim in all kinds of water. This boat runs very well in rougher water, but it still is only a 27' boat. This boat also had a 12" extension box and 380 K-Planes so it performed like it had a little more length. In true 2'-3's on Lake Michigan you could get the boat run in them. Anything over that you knew you could get home but not ideal. Compared to the 22 I had been in I would call it noticeably better, not substantially better.

The boat would run 98 mph and the name is "Heads I Win" ;)

c0ncEpT 08-03-2020 01:16 PM

I have no experience with the 22 Blackhawk but currently have a 27 Fountain.

The 27 Fountain can run in 2-3ft waves head on or trailing decently. If you have to 1/4 those 2-3ft waves your in for a long ride.

It's a small and light boat so the bow is very active. Using a little bit of tab will help smooth it out.


dirtlawyer 08-04-2020 11:50 AM

I would not call the 27 Fountain or even the 29 Fountain, for that matter, a good rough water boat. That having been said, length and displacement alone may give the 27 Fountain a bit of an edge over the 22 Donzi. I had a 29 Fountain for a couple of years and it was miserable in the rough. My 27 Concept runs significantly better than the Fountain did in similar conditions (I know, not comparing apples to apples, but...). I agree with the folks who suggested looking at the 27zr - although there doesn't seem to be a lot of them around.

JPEROG 08-04-2020 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Rookie (Post 4751124)
I've been in and have seat time running the above mentioned boat with Jim in all kinds of water. This boat runs very well in rougher water, but it still is only a 27' boat. This boat also had a 12" extension box and 380 K-Planes so it performed like it had a little more length. In true 2'-3's on Lake Michigan you could get the boat run in them. Anything over that you knew you could get home but not ideal. Compared to the 22 I had been in I would call it noticeably better, not substantially better.

The boat would run 98 mph and the name is "Heads I Win" ;)

I was close. Its been a long time and I am getting old. Jim was always a cool guy to talk to and the boat was always a surprise when he was next you.

Joe

FeverMike 08-09-2021 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by dirtlawyer (Post 4751409)
I would not call the 27 Fountain or even the 29 Fountain, for that matter, a good rough water boat. That having been said, length and displacement alone may give the 27 Fountain a bit of an edge over the 22 Donzi. I had a 29 Fountain for a couple of years and it was miserable in the rough. My 27 Concept runs significantly better than the Fountain did in similar conditions (I know, not comparing apples to apples, but...). I agree with the folks who suggested looking at the 27zr - although there doesn't seem to be a lot of them around.

Digging up and oldie...but I haven't been here in a while. As a past 29 Fever owner...I have a 2000 29 Fever with a HP500, bought brand new and had it for 4 years. It was a very very solid built boat but it was not a rough water boat. It was fine around the Tampa area intercostal waterway close big chop in the bay but in the Gulf on a breezy day you could lose a kidney! The 27 is a lake boat...small lake boat and the cockpit of the 27 is super tight and shallow.


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