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1MOSES1 01-04-2021 06:50 PM

someone with very little wheel time has no business running a boat like that at haul over inlet. the dude with “50” years experience should have seen those waves from a mile away and shut the driver down before it got ugly.

Glad no one got killed. Speedy recovery to everyone involved.

Trickster1 01-04-2021 07:06 PM

This is why our insurance rates are high.

I'CE 01-04-2021 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by boostbros (Post 4771467)
i watched one today that featured ben kramers apache rocking over the waves it still sounds good!

this ?

speicher lane 01-04-2021 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4771644)
someone with very little wheel time has no business running a boat like that at haul over inlet. the dude with “50” years experience should have seen those waves from a mile away and shut the driver down before it got ugly.

Glad no one got killed. Speedy recovery to everyone involved.

Except for anyone with an ego at the helm that thought the situation was going result in praise and rave reviews WOULDN'T listen to someone with 50 years of experience

+1 on the speedy recovery and I am sure the ambulance chasers are converging

1MOSES1 01-04-2021 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by speicher lane (Post 4771669)
Except for anyone with an ego at the helm that thought the situation was going result in praise and rave reviews WOULDN'T listen to someone with 50 years of experience

+1 on the speedy recovery and I am sure the ambulance chasers are converging

Agreed!

getrdunn 01-05-2021 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 4771619)
Your first responsibility as a captain is to the person(s) sitting next to you and behind you, the second is yourself, and third your equipment if you care. If I think about it, this clown is actually worse than the Lotto dude, the only difference is there was no Go-Pro on the dash to record this carnage. If you look closely those passengers in the back were practically levitated off the floor before crashing down.

Sweet friggin boat though.


Yes you can see them probably close to a foot off the floor before impact. I watched this a half dozen or so times now and get more pissed each time I watch. There is no excuse for being a complete irresponsible idiot with others lives in his hands. Considering the injuries of those passengers they will likely be impacted the rest of their lives in one way or another.

I’ve always told people when they get in my boat there are always risk. Riders always wanna go fast, jump waves etc. Well most anyway. I just drive with the best of my capabilities and have fun with the safety of others always top priority.

I was running hot on lake mi south of grand haven while a 32 AT was approaching at close to 80 in 3 to 4 plus footers and my stbd drive popped out of gear. Didn’t end well and coulda been worse however my friends wife ended up in the hospital with 2 broken ribs and several bruises. I felt horrible.... absolutely horrible even though they insisted I didn’t get passed by the AT.

That was equipment failure for sure. The boat recently had the same side drive and cable replaced at the factory and the cable had stretched. I learned a valuable lesson. Check all like a captain of a plane prior to departure.

Am i mistaking or does it appear the cig is running 60 to 70 mph. Wtf... Would liked to have seen someone choke his little bird neck and taken over the helm.

ICDEDPPL 01-05-2021 11:27 AM

Cigarette racing posted this vid as if it was funny and cool on Instagram .
I don`t think people getting hurt and someone breaking their back is funny at all.
Driver is a fuc king idiot you never go that fast at those types of waves, this dude is worse then the fountain guy .


I think he thought he was going to be handling those waves like Allez Vite

but he has neither the boat or the skills .

Nate5.0 01-05-2021 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4771736)
Cigarette racing posted this vid as if it was funny and cool on Instagram .
I don`t think people getting hurt and someone breaking their back is funny at all.
Driver is a fuc king idiot you never go that fast at those types of waves, this dude is worse then the fountain guy .
.


Not to call you out like a dick but the "Cigarette Racing team" that posted it is NOT Cigarette them self and is not run by Cigarette.

@cigaretteracingteam - is the real Cigarette run page and the video is no where on there. They have the blue check mark and their last post was 5 days ago and was the new 42x running near the Glacier.

@cigaretteracing - posted the video and a separate and personally run account not owned, run, or affiliated with Cigarette themselves.


Just dont want to see a brand or person get slammed for something they actually didnt say or post is all.

93 shooter 01-05-2021 11:56 AM

https://www.lipship.com/used_boats/view/26

getrdunn 01-05-2021 12:25 PM

What a RUSH regardless. That’s run with some confidence and aw-thor-ti.

getrdunn 01-05-2021 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by 93 shooter (Post 4771742)

Didn’t ck but recently I hope. Deserved a better home. What beautiful boat!!!

thirdchildhood 01-05-2021 12:42 PM

I've been watching the Haulover videos for some time and it looks very tricky to navigate. Too slow and you repeatedly stuff. Too fast and you get big air. I've seen a lot of bowriders take on a whole lot of water and most of the boaters don't have enough sense to have everyone in the back of the boat until they get past the breakers. There is video of at least one boat sinking and another of a passenger flying overboard.

Drock78 01-05-2021 01:02 PM

He obviously has no business driving a boat of that caliber. He didn't even back out of the throttles or stop after his passengers were all on the ground. Realistically he deserves to be paying all medical bills.

Nate5.0 01-05-2021 01:10 PM

The owner is on FB and friends with a lot of folk in the offshore boating world. Dont recall his name but recall his post about buying it rather recently.

Jupiter Sunsation 01-05-2021 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by thirdchildhood (Post 4771755)
I've been watching the Haulover videos for some time and it looks very tricky to navigate. Too slow and you repeatedly stuff. Too fast and you get big air. I've seen a lot of bowriders take on a whole lot of water and most of the boaters don't have enough sense to have everyone in the back of the boat until they get past the breakers. There is video of at least one boat sinking and another of a passenger flying overboard.

It gets funky on tide changes for sure, if the wind kicks up it is nasty but from the bridge to the ocean you have plenty of time to U turn in flat water (1000+ ft) but the current can still rip through there. The jetty is popular because it is easy to access and plenty of morons pull their u-turn right at the ocean opening

If it was deeper/wider like Port Everglades or Govt Cut then the water doesn't get as nasty.

Jupiter Sunsation 01-05-2021 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4771629)
That boat belonged to a member here up until the new owner bought it.

Easy with the pitch forks and mob mentality. Sh*t happens. People makes mistakes, have poor judgement at times and / or do stupid stuff.

I don’t know this guy but that sucks. Feel very bad For all involved. I know I’ve personally looked back and thought to myself “damn that was close / lucky / could’ve ended bad...”

hope everyone makes a quick recovery. And is able to boat another day.


Not sure who built it but Bernie was selling it NJ for awhile.

39 ft and 2200 HP.............you better have some skills or maybe start with a 38 and 1/2 the HP!

Schuble got a pretty good launch leaving Port Everglades in the OSO Gladiator (1:47 mark). VIdeo is 15 years old and plenty of stupid sh!t going on (and notice not a center console in the whole video!)

Sydwayz 01-05-2021 02:22 PM

The OSO Gladiator is probably THE most abused Cigarette in modern times. Gary Sanchez and I were leaving SoBe years ago, Miami Boat Show week; Gary and I in the F2-TG (that the Lucky Strikes owned x2), and Titos was driving Steve's Gladiator when it had the 496 Vortec GMC motors in it. We were following Titos up to Phils to park the boats for the night.

Leaving Government Cut, Titos and the 36' Gladiator literally...
...dropped completely out of sight about 300 feet in front of us, and then drove up the face of the wave in front of him so vertical, that I could no bullshlt, read the GMC logo plain as day across the BOW of the boat. I'll always remember Titos driving a "rented, rented, boat" that day. :D

Jupiter Sunsation 01-05-2021 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4771779)
The OSO Gladiator is probably THE most abused Cigarette in modern times. Gary Sanchez and I were leaving SoBe years ago, Miami Boat Show week; Gary and I in the F2-TG (that the Lucky Strikes owned x2), and Titos was driving Steve's Gladiator when it had the 496 Vortec GMC motors in it. We were following Titos up to Phils to park the boats for the night.

Leaving Government Cut, Titos and the 36' Gladiator literally...
...dropped completely out of sight about 300 feet in front of us, and then drove up the face of the wave in front of him so vertical, that I could no bullshlt, read the GMC logo plain as day across the BOW of the boat. I'll always remember Titos driving a "rented, rented, boat" that day. :D


It may be a 2nd place story when LS Jr and LS take Steve's new Gladiator out! :D

endeavor1 01-05-2021 02:33 PM

I just want to know when the memes or dub step remixes are coming.... :bananalove:

thisistank 01-05-2021 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4771776)
Not sure who built it but Bernie was selling it NJ for awhile.

39 ft and 2200 HP.............you better have some skills or maybe start with a 38 and 1/2 the HP!

Schuble got a pretty good launch leaving Port Everglades in the OSO Gladiator (1:47 mark). VIdeo is 15 years old and plenty of stupid sh!t going on (and notice not a center console in the whole video!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGk5HGyeAjI

Still, in my opinion, the BEST Boating video to date! Captures “the scene” PERFECTLY.


Drock78 01-05-2021 03:25 PM

I recognize alot of...boats in that video.

Cash Bar 01-05-2021 03:39 PM

That was tough to watch, but some days are better than others.

https://www.facebook.com/wavyboatsmiami/posts/915929005895669

Wavy Boats - Posts | Facebook


They added some music to our shot rolling in.

offshoredrillin 01-05-2021 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4771796)
Still, in my opinion, the BEST Boating video to date! Captures “the scene” PERFECTLY.

that and no way out....

jeff32 01-05-2021 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Cash Bar (Post 4771806)
That was tough to watch, but some days are better than others.

https://www.facebook.com/wavyboatsmiami/posts/915929005895669

Wavy Boats - Posts | Facebook


They added some music to our shot rolling in.

nice !

dykstra 01-05-2021 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by Cash Bar (Post 4771806)
That was tough to watch, but some days are better than others.

https://www.facebook.com/wavyboatsmiami/posts/915929005895669

Wavy Boats - Posts | Facebook


They added some music to our shot rolling in.

Y’all looked great. Looks like you got the boat dialed in!

Eddienel 01-05-2021 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Cash Bar (Post 4771806)
That was tough to watch, but some days are better than others.

https://www.facebook.com/wavyboatsmiami/posts/915929005895669

Wavy Boats - Posts | Facebook


They added some music to our shot rolling in.

Man that starboard engine at one point looked like it was fixing to get ripped off! Thanks for sharing...

Cash Bar 01-05-2021 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by Eddienel (Post 4771857)
Man that starboard engine at one point looked like it was fixing to get ripped off! Thanks for sharing...

The first 2-3 times I watched the video I really thought the same thing. But then I watched our onboard camera footage, and re watched this, and realized it's the windshield distorting the view every time the boat rises and falls.

Eddienel 01-05-2021 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by Cash Bar (Post 4771868)
The first 2-3 times I watched the video I really thought the same thing. But then I watched our onboard camera footage, and re watched this, and realized it's the windshield distorting the view every time the boat rises and falls.

Um I’m pretty sure you were trying to rip it off!lol Just messing with you. Awesome video man!

Indy 01-06-2021 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by Cash Bar (Post 4771868)
The first 2-3 times I watched the video I really thought the same thing. But then I watched our onboard camera footage, and re watched this, and realized it's the windshield distorting the view every time the boat rises and falls.

Sure looked like a wiggle watching it above the windshield, anyway nice boat, nice vid.

Twin O/B Sonic 01-06-2021 07:02 AM

For being a cat and that size, in that water, I’m way impressed w/how well that boat ran.
Looked great and nice wheel work!

Very impressive.

I take back everything I’ve said about cats.
Well, most of it 😉



Originally Posted by Cash Bar (Post 4771868)
The first 2-3 times I watched the video I really thought the same thing. But then I watched our onboard camera footage, and re watched this, and realized it's the windshield distorting the view every time the boat rises and falls.


Eddienel 01-06-2021 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic (Post 4771894)
For being a cat and that size, in that water, I’m way impressed w/how well that boat ran.
Looked great and nice wheel work!

Very impressive.

I take back everything I’ve said about cats.
Well, most of it 😉

Man I thought the same thing. Wow that boat handles amazing.

pm203 01-06-2021 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic (Post 4771894)
For being a cat and that size, in that water, I’m way impressed w/how well that boat ran.
Looked great and nice wheel work!

Very impressive.

I take back everything I’ve said about cats.
Well, most of it 😉

The boat and its operators looked confident, capable and fully in control.

speicher lane 01-06-2021 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 4771901)
The boat and its operators looked confident, capable and fully in control.

With a compliment like that, Cash Bar should almost grant you a future mulligan if you ever posted in the grey area of OSO rules

(kidding of course)

Wildman_grafix 01-06-2021 09:02 AM

I have been wondering for a while how well these very light OB cats will handle in rough water.

How did they do at the Joey Gratton run, I missed it this year but know it was sloppy?

Cash Bar 01-06-2021 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4771914)
I have been wondering for a while how well these very light OB cats will handle in rough water.

How did they do at the Joey Gratton run, I missed it this year but know it was sloppy?

It was definitely snotty on the gulf on the 31st. Here is s 7 min clip of the start in the bay and out to the Gulf. We hung with the big cats and Vs for a bit, then watched in awe as Platinum Addiction 42V rolled by and passed TaTonka while 6 people drank martinis. LOL


Wildman_grafix 01-06-2021 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by Cash Bar (Post 4771928)
It was definitely snotty on the gulf on the 31st. Here is s 7 min clip of the start in the bay and out to the Gulf. We hung with the big cats and Vs for a bit, then watched in awe as Platinum Addiction 42V rolled by and passed TaTonka while 6 people drank martinis. LOL

https://youtu.be/V0E34kA49Wg

Yea that was sloppy,,,,,,,,,, and it never looks as bad on Video as it is.

getrdunn 01-06-2021 11:35 AM

That’s a great video. That red and white V just didn’t wanna give up. All great running and looking boats.

Eddienel 01-06-2021 11:41 AM

Damn that was impressive! How fast were you running Cash Bar ? That MTI is impressive...

speicher lane 01-06-2021 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4771941)
That’s a great video. That red and white V just didn’t wanna give up. All great running and looking boats.

I think that's a Skater


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...73dc1c04d2.jpg

Cash Bar 01-06-2021 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by Eddienel (Post 4771944)
Damn that was impressive! How fast were you running Cash Bar ? That MTI is impressive...

Mostly in the 70s and into the 80s when I could get some water to cooperate.


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