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MaroonKnighty 09-26-2021 08:07 PM

First Mohican
 
What ever happened to this boat? I haven't heard about it in a long time.

J-Bonz 09-26-2021 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by MaroonKnighty (Post 4807078)
What ever happened to this boat? I haven't heard about it in a long time.

You mean the last Mohican.. lol, I remember that said after it was built. Some one bought it and repainted it yellow and black.. it was saddening to see imo. I will try finding the website on the rebuild.

found…

https://wexzchief.com/


speicher lane 09-26-2021 09:31 PM

Quite a rebuild on your link...good read!

+1 on the Mohican paint Vs the bee theme

Griff 09-27-2021 12:41 AM

Never knew what happened to First Mohican. I had heard it was pretty rough when it was last listed.
Not a fan of the black and yellow

Gary C 09-27-2021 05:38 AM

I actually like the black and yellow! That was a good read. I can only imagine how much money and time went into this!

offshoredrillin 09-27-2021 06:36 AM

wow, never knew that about the boat, not a fan of the new colors but def a fan of seeing him do it his way.

Indy 09-27-2021 07:11 AM

Awesome link, love to see this type of rebuild. Great story...much better than the latest DCB roll-out. The workmanship, time, effort, and passion show, could do with a different color pallet but to each their own, love the fact that Bobby S. is involved so deeply.

thisistank 09-27-2021 10:14 AM

I think the black and yellow looks bad azz, better than the original frankly. clean and sporty. Cool link and story. Thanks jack!

any more pics of this thing? Maybe running or in the water? Wonder if it’s coming out to Cali since the dude lives in L.A. now. I see the pic of him in his skater looks like havasu.

phragle 09-27-2021 11:29 AM

So does this guy crank Stryper from the tape deck??

Its not that I dont like it, It looks great, but the Only Mohican is/was the Only Mohican.

Its like taking hot dogs and apple pie and turning them into hamburgers and chocolate cake..Hamburgers and chocolate cake are good, but hot dogs and apple pie are the classics.....

DRAG 09-27-2021 02:24 PM

Pretty cool documentation of his restoration

Jupiter Sunsation 09-28-2021 12:41 PM

Guy does nice work! I'd bet that boat is better than when it was new!

Don't love the paint scheme, but then again indian heads as a logo/theme are politically incorrect these days (Redskins/Indians)

Canuck B Crazy 09-29-2021 10:34 AM

I like the old scheme better. Shame that the boat needed to be redone. I would have kept it the same. The only good news is now someone can copy the old theme on something else. If I was in the market for a new boat, Id do it with a Saber 41.

caseyh 09-29-2021 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4807362)
Guy does nice work! I'd bet that boat is better than when it was new!

Don't love the paint scheme, but then again indian heads as a logo/theme are politically incorrect these days (Redskins/Indians)

who cares about correctness

Canuck B Crazy 09-29-2021 04:04 PM

I'm surprised Chief didn't build more boats. Same with Saber, as they have the 41 and 47 Apache molds.

Interceptor 09-29-2021 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by Canuck B Crazy (Post 4807477)
I'm surprised Chief didn't build more boats. Same with Saber, as they have the 41 and 47 Apache molds.

The past twenty years has proven there isn't much of a customer base for new Apache type boats built in old or modified molds owned by another company at a significant price. I'm sure Saber would build you a great boat.

phragle 09-29-2021 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 4807500)
The past twenty years has proven there isn't much of a customer base for new Apache type boats built in old or modified molds owned by another company at a significant price. I'm sure Saber would build you a great boat.

Chief, Pantera, Saber, Checkmate, north coast..am I missing anybody?

boostbros 09-30-2021 08:00 AM

that is a very cool project click on the link in the beginning to see all the pics ....Old School Rocks ...i,m not a fan of the huge center console outboard racks with a paint job that looks like a 5 year old with a crayon designed it

Jupiter Sunsation 09-30-2021 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by phragle (Post 4807502)
Chief, Pantera, Saber, Checkmate, north coast..am I missing anybody?


Yeah but you should have listed how many they have built:

Chief- 3 (though they started calling them 42s at some point)
Pantera- 2 or 3 including the race boat
Saber- maybe 5-7 41's (no idea, just thinking of how many I've seen posted at poker runs over the years)
Checkmate - 1
North Coast - never heard of them

MonkeySea2 09-30-2021 11:12 AM

I've always said, if I had the funds, I'd have Saber build me a new 41!!

Canuck B Crazy 10-01-2021 11:07 AM

Still low numbers, thanks for them. Seems they should have built more, especially Saber. Seeing how long they've had the molds for the 41.

jusabum 10-04-2021 12:41 PM

It's not just Apache, it's offshore muscle boats as a segment of boating, the demand for these hard-core deep-vee style of boats has all but disappeared within the industry, and that's why I was "shocked" when this new guy bought Cigarette...I'll bet Skip laughed all the way to the bank. And I'm sure they will sell a few, get a little resurgence, but I'll bet they never make much money, if ever.

Stuckonstupid 10-04-2021 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by jusabum (Post 4807929)
It's not just Apache, it's offshore muscle boats as a segment of boating, the demand for these hard-core deep-vee style of boats has all but disappeared within the industry, and that's why I was "shocked" when this new guy bought Cigarette...I'll bet Skip laughed all the way to the bank. And I'm sure they will sell a few, get a little resurgence, but I'll bet they never make much money, if ever.

Put your money where your mouth is.

jusabum 10-04-2021 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by Stuckonstupid (Post 4807967)
Put your money where your mouth is.

I did. Thanks.

SABER28 10-04-2021 09:00 PM

what i dont understand is how does a boat like this or others get in this bad of shape? especially when they tell you only 50 hours on the boat.what do they do? leave it uncovered out in the sun and rain all year?


wex777 03-05-2022 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4807162)
I think the black and yellow looks bad azz, better than the original frankly. clean and sporty. Cool link and story. Thanks jack!

any more pics of this thing? Maybe running or in the water? Wonder if it’s coming out to Cali since the dude lives in L.A. now. I see the pic of him in his skater looks like havasu.

I am the owner of this boat and it finally almost finished and Fineline Interiors. The boat will be based out of California so you will definitely see it in MDR, Newport and Havasu. It will also make the nationwide Poker Run circuit.
Thanks for all the comments (both good and bad).

wex777 03-05-2022 07:39 AM

I am the owner of the boat and the guy who chose the colors and designed the new color scheme. I am also a nostalgic person and like to restore things rather than change them. When I bought the boat it was in horrible shape. The Indian head paint job was a 60 coat work of art that was probably 1/4" thick. The issue was, it had gashes and scratches running through it from the previous owners and touching it up or fixing it would never look right. I like all of my toys to be perfect, especially after a renovation like this one. I looked at stripping it down and having it repainted but all of the famous boat painters had a 1 year waiting list and I wanted to get it done and on the water quickly. It is also over a $100K Paint job in today's dollars and I wanted to use that $$$ on other parts of the boat. Choosing a simple 2 color paint scheme was way less expensive and faster. I added the deck stripe for nostalgia from my dads old racing days. I hope you all understand.

delsol 03-05-2022 09:51 AM

Great restore and update -- Enjoy the boat! It should do everything you were looking for and more:D The fact that Bobby was behind the project is that much better of a story...the man is a legend and just a really nice guy.

thisistank 03-05-2022 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by wex777 (Post 4823842)
I am the owner of this boat and it finally almost finished and Fineline Interiors. The boat will be based out of California so you will definitely see it in MDR, Newport and Havasu. It will also make the nationwide Poker Run circuit.
Thanks for all the comments (both good and bad).

congrats on an awesome build! We’ll be boating around MDR and Long Beach / catalina thisas well as Havasu in the cig. Looking forward to seeing your new ride in person!

wex777 03-08-2022 09:17 AM

He is the best and I will be sad when this project is over. I have talked to Bobby more than my own parents during the boats evolution.

Top Banana 03-08-2022 01:56 PM

Fantastic story and a great presentation to cover the progress.

Congrats Eric. As you can imagine I have heard a lot of this from Bobby directly and he is as excited as you are, to be involved with this.

Thanks so much for picking the best in the business and the only choice, when dealing with an Apache or Chief......Mr Saccenti!!!

wex777 03-24-2022 03:31 PM

It is a privileged to work with him and count him as a close personal friend and there was no better choice (or more fun) for a project of this magnitude. Many of the parts and ideas over this restoration process came with a free history lesson / trip down memory lane.


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