Electric Cigarette
 

Does anybody know what happened to the Electric 38 cigarette they built. From what I remember it could only run for about 10 minutes on full charge or something like that. Was curious what happened to it or where it ended up.

Think it was 30-45 minutes at cruise. It was converted to 50hz electrical system to go to Europe, and I thought I heard it was taken apart and rigged with gas engines

It was on display at the Mercedes museum in Stuttgart

Is that on a 500' closed course circle? Else, how did it carry enough extension cord? :D Or did they just cruise it around the Fountain? (See what I did there?) :D :D
https://www.speedonthewater.com/ciga...rcedes-museum/

I'm not certain it was ever even put in the water.


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:D

Do any of you have a clue that the electric chit and the H2O chit do not play well with each other.

Can't wait to spend 500K on a boat that gets me a chit giggle 10 minute ride.

ONE place where electric power will never be anything other than a tiny niche to appease some eco-nut is...boats. At least as long as it requires BATTERIES to run the damned things. The CONCEPT is sound...instant and full torque but sadly, there simply isn't the technology there, currently...lol...to make it viable. I could see someone working out a RTG to power the motors instead of batteries...but then it's a floating nuclear disaster waiting to happen.

Did you guys happen to see this by chance?

https://www.riverdavesplace.com/foru...at-racing.866/

or this?

https://www.speedonthewater.com/elec...-this-weekend/

I think you’re a bit off that it’s not doable right now.

If you do the math, the E-1 series race boats can only run 14 minutes at full power.

give me a call bro, it’s been some time!

I watched the electric shootout boat. It didn't have enough battery to run the full course flat out, 1 mile. Gonna be awhile before we have batteries good enough.

Just saying, I think it’s probably closer than you think.

there are plenty of ferry boats using full electric already -- Norway was the first back in 2014ish. Now there are 2 maid of the mist's at Niagara Falls also. I agree offshores are not the platform but i wouldn't blanket all boats as not being elible.

I have no idea how far along that technology is but my dewalt weed wacker on lo maybe just maybe leaves enough juice for the blower.
and the petrincic brothers youtube channel they only fly battery planes for a few minutes but they are funny to watch.

The batteries may get there but the infrastructure never will, the amount power needed to recharge a car or boat in the same amount of time it takes to fill a gas tank is scary. Might be this article or another i read in which the power line is liquid nitrogen cooled and you need to wear a space suit or something and special training to attach and operate it.

there goes whoopin inta circle k grabbin some dogs beer smokes and chips and while the pumps out there runnin,
don't forgot all the highly trained guys who can operate that much electricity, they're all standing in line to work at the fillin station

https://driving.ca/auto-news/news/mo...ng-gas-engines

I think cruisers and larger boats will go that way more.

as for cars and the long wait to charge what I think they are working on a way where you would just swap the battery out.

Like we do on our tools. I have a electric mower, weed wacker and blower. The things are great for my small canal home lot.

I think it’s not as far off as you guys think. You got people dedicating a LOT of money and time into electric high speed boats and now with Mercury on board and bold enough to say there’s going to be a race class by 2023!? Pretty bold statement. I mean look at that yellow electric cigarette. The technology in that thing is stupid antiquated now and it wasn’t that long ago that thing debuted. The tech moves fast. I think it’ll be obtainable and sustainable sooner rather than later.

I could care less either way frankly. I won’t even by outboards because I enjoy the roar of through hull exhaust connected to a big gas guzzling v8 😁👍

That E-1 series look more like hydrofoils to me than boats.

The Norwegians are now selling their Evoy electric 150 hp outboards and within three years they will have 300 hp and 450 hp versions also. In a couple of weeks they're premiering

their 800 hp Hurricane G2 inboard in a military-spec-rated Goldfish X9 VIP chaser boat for the 2022 SailGp. I expect that boat will top out 80-90 mph, have very impressive acceleration,

and cruise 60 mph for about 90-120 minutes. The Norwegian government are already completing supercharging stations along the coast. Here are a few photos of the Goldfish X9, and

a couple of tech videos from Evoy.

You Tube

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I saw a commercial for a huge electric semi once. Said it was the future and they were pretty much ready to be released for commercial use, Then everyone started digging deeper and found out the whole thing was a fraud. Nikola was their name. Remember, just because someone has some flashy video of their product or makes claims about how good it is means nothing anymore. Theranos should ring another bell. Nothing against electric at all. I wish it were more feasible, just haven't seen anything that really makes me think we are only a few years out, I see decades before we are there.

E-Cig was converted to TDI last I saw of it at a German boat show. I’ve got a pic or two around somewhere.

the hydrofoils look sick. Always thought that was the way to go. smoother ride. Much more efficient.

Love my Model X, wife has a Model 3. Electric is the future no doubt, but power boats take a LOT of... power. Maybe someday we'll get a battery the size of a microwave that holds millions of kWh. :). I'd always wanted to throw a motor in the bottom of an outdrive, with no vertical shaft needed. No transmission needed.

This is an incredibly exciting time, cars have been the same for 100 years of suck squeeze bang blow. Finally some really cool stuff. Can't wait to test drive a F-150 Lightning, Rivian, CyberTruck and hummer!
I haven't filled a gas car since 2015.

Someday we plan to live on a boat to travel (50-70 foot). I had thoughts of... what if it was like a locomotive? Diesel engine + generator + motors on the main shafts. I did some quick math based on some CAT strait 6s, based on their HP. (equivalent motors). the control of zero RPM shafts/quiet/less vibration/etc. But the power requirements are massive, hence a massive generator, which seems to negate a lot of the benefits... but still a fun math exercise... Looking into solar panels to even reduce the need for the generator, but a floating house needs a lot of power... that mini nuke reactor is looking better and better lol.
I'm so tired of the oil and grease crawling all over the 350s in my 292...

EV's are not going away. Just avoid the ones from England made by Lucas.

Lol...the 'Prince of Darkness'...
I know Lucas well, having been a British sports car nut for years...

Electric boats for the fortunate few and no boats for the majority?
 

The problem is NOT the technology at the moment, but that it doesn't make sense for most potential users due to purchase price. I remember 20 years ago when Leonardo DiCaprio and his dad came into Toyota of Hollywood and bought several of the first Toyota Prius sold in the U.S. They were small ugly cars with lots of limitations and I was thinking: only rich people and celebrities will be crazy enough to buy these things, and for quite a while that was the case. When Larry Smith, of Scarab fame, 15 years ago invited me to check out the Torqeedo electric outboard for sailboats and dingies, those days it was the same thing, everything made sense except the price. The Norwegians are a very well-to-do people due to their government's offshore oil income the last 40 years, pretty much unlimited hydroelectric power, and a seafaring cosmopolitan trade heritage. This is the only reason they have a society that has the means to already have in use large, fast, fully electric ferries and other commercial boats. For the average Thor Eriksson, the Goldfish X9 with an 800 hp electrical motor is not doable, but the 150 hp electrical outboard is and will be on their ribs to play with during weekend boating excursions already this coming summer. Only a few wealthy Swedes and Danes will buy them as a status novelty to show off to friends at next summer's vacation-home parties. However, the technology is already here, and in a couple of years it will be almost as user-friendly and logistically practical as fossil fuel driven boats. My guts are telling me that the biggest hurdle for any electrical vehicle/vessel to be the new norm will continue to be battery cost and re-charging station networks. Most Western nations won't be able to raise the capital to go electrical for quite some time. Our societies are past our prime and have so many other costly problems that need to be addressed first. 50 years ago pretty much any American working class family could afford to get a smaller family boat and head for the lake. That will sadly not be the case in the future and it starts to look as grim for many Europeans too. Going to the beach wearing the life vests will be as close to boating even most Vikings will come.
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I think the E Cig Vaporized... :party-smiley-004:

About 10-12 years ago there was a electric Diesel hybred cruising catamaran out. The top was covered in solar cells, had a small wind driven generator as well. The engines used the bell-housing as a motor/generator so when on pure fuel it charged the batteries.

It could also run pure electric or a combo with the electric helping the motors.

I think they said in combo mode at 8-10 knots it got mileage in the teens. Was a Australian company, can’t remember the name.

It's here!


Not replacing my Formula 292 any time soon, but that looks so cool.

The motor technology is here, batteries have been the hold up. Although batteries have become better, liquid cooling and size/weight and amp/hours have been the curse. Right now there are a couple of tests being conducted on batteries half the size and weight with two to three times the capacity. This will be a game changer, as Tank said don’t be surprised, they may be closer than you think.