Amsoil VS Walmart Mobil One
 

Amsoil VS Walmart Mobil One?

While at Walmart I ran the numbers for Motor oil and Gear Oil.

2X 15W 50 (5 quart jugs) @$25.00 = $50.00
3X quarts 90w High Performance Mercruiser Gear oil @ 10.47 each = $31.41

AutoZone KN 3002 filter at $15.00

Total for Motor oil and Gear lube $81.41

With filter $96.41

I have always used Amsoil in the past but the cost in comparison is more than twice or not more than the Walmart cost.

Is the quality of Amsoil and higher cost still worth it compared to the above alternative?
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This is really an apples to pomegranates comparison. AMSOIL fans will tell you if you worry about cost, then you shouldn't be boating. There are literally hundreds if not thousands of threads like this in any forum at any time...and when you say 'quality' as the comparison item...well, get ready for the responses!

<grabs popcorn>

Can even go little cheaper and use a wix /napa gold (same filters as eech other) .

Also $35 or over orders ship free from walmart. Gas at 4-5 gallon, saves even more $$$ not having to drive for it.

Flat tappet cams, i would want more zinc/phosphorous than mobil 15w:50 offers even though has much more than standard street oils.

You've got a 496mag. Any decent oil changed every 50 hrs will work fine. IMO, Amsoil is a waste of $$ for a stock 496.

My 496HO lives on Mobil Delvac 1300S 15w40. $12 a gallon at Walmart.

Agree with Griff. I do not do much mechanical work on my boat. I leave that to my certified Mercury mechanic who works on everything from bow riders, center consoles to high end performance boats ( cigarette, Apache, etc ), mostly v bottoms since we don’t see many cats in my area. Anyhow, he’s said many times before, unless a customer asks for it, he will use regular oil, nothing fancy, especially if it’s a stock motor like the 496.

Over the last 20yrs that I have been reading threads on OSO, there has only been 1 thread that I believe failure was due to the oil that was chosen. And that was the build of a tight tolerance 0-20 wt engine years ago. And failure was the tight tolerances and viscosity chosen not the brand of oil. Any quality oil should be fine. I've always been an advocate of the Walmart 15-50 Mobil 1, but I run Mobil 1 in everything.

15-40 Rotella in stock engines and Valvoline VR1 20-50 in high performance engines has always worked for me. From what I understand, the Mobil 1 formula was changed a few years ago and the high end racers won't touch it anymore. However, it would be more than adequate for a stock 496. I do like and use the Amsoil gear lube though.

I bought most of my 15w50 M1 from WalMart when I had my 496HOs for 13 seasons.
Wix Napa Gold 51060 filter. (You can buy them in bulk for cheaper & forget the K&N filter.)
1 quart of Lucas Oil Treatment with 7 quarts of Mobil 1.

Just like your last thread on this topic...
...you can't go wrong with the above recipe.

My old boat has something like 800 hours on the 496HOs with the above maintenance.

And I only used Mercury High Performance Gear Lube. Many drive builders swear by it, even with all of the other options on the market.


I run AmsOil exclusively in my race car though.

Personally, I think 15-50 is too light. As a bargain, 20-50 Mobile 1 at Walmart is a good deal, but for a few bucks more, you can have Amsoil Dominator 60wt. Which is great stuff. With BigBlock applications, 496Mag/HO and 525 style engines the oil pressure maintains better even after hard runs, its specifically made to assume a lot of gas ends up in the oil, the oil lasts wayyyyy longer than conventional 20-50 so at the end of the day, Dominator 60wt really doesnt cost more since it can stay in your engine much longer. When my Mobil 1 was dirty, the dominator was still red and clean.

This topic of oil has been debated many times over the years. I've used the Merc and Quicksilver both as well as Mobil in engines past. Now in the new 525efi whipples I'll be using the Castrol 20w-50 due to that's what Eddie Young says to run in those. He recommends that in all of his engines, so since he built them I'll run what he says. Especially since it is way cheaper than a lot of the other oils. Wix filters are the ones I'll use for sure and have used them many times in the past.

Yup, less than $25 for 5 quart jug 20w-50 vr1 conventional

The 15w is only a weight rating for cold temperatures and matters very little for boats. It still has a 50 weight viscosity rating at normal operating temperatures. Oil pressure is the restriction of flow. If you put 90 weight oil in your engine the pressure would be higher, but the flow would actually be lower. The 496 engines were designed for Merc 25w-40, so any oil with a 50 weight rating is more than enough. When oil gets dirty, that means its doing its job and removing contaminants from the engine.

AND, keeping those contaminants in suspension (detergent effect).

Six of one, half dozen of another. Only in terms of Dominator 60, because I love that stuff, my engines always ran cooler and a testament to that, I think its clean because the engine parts arent wearing to begin with due to the superior oil film hence lower temps.

...and now we are into a full-on oil thread

Imho, Most of the dirtiness you see is combustion byproducts from blow by.

Yep. Oil doesn't turn black because it's all full of worn internal parts. It turns black because of suspended particles of burned or partially burned hydrocarbons.

That 60wt is probably to thick to catch particles 😉

And many oils are different colors and shades of colors new. :)

I've always like Valvoline VR1 20/50 because of the added Zinc content but I'm not a scientist or expert on the fundamentals of molecules in oil and how much none of that makes a difference with how often we all change the oil in our boats. Sometimes it comes down to availability and what you can always rely on being able to get. Being in the automotive industry everything is getting harder to get (oils, filters etc.) so always buy extra!

Both VR1 and Mobil1 15w-50 have the same zinc level at 1300ppm. Lower viscisity Mobil1 oils have 800-900ppm.

Quite close.

vr1 has 1400 zinc 1300 phosphorous
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mobil 1 15w-50 1300 zinc 1200 phosphorous
http://www.billswebspace.com/mobil_1_product_guide.pdf

mobil twin v oil.

:thumbs
1700 zinc 1600 phosporous

http://www.billswebspace.com/mobil_1_product_guide.pdf

The only caveat to the second viscosity number is that it`s measured at 100*C (212*) .
For example a 15-50 weight oil has 50W oil viscosity at 212* , my engines run oil temp at 170-180* at cruise so Am I never seeing 50w , is it somewhere between 15-50? That`s above my paygrade..
A straight weight oil is not going to have that problem.

Yay! An oil thread! :food-smiley-007:

Snowed here last night, so here I am :)

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Good info here from K1.

My STOCK 496HO main bearing clearance were .002" 1thru4. .0025" #5. Typical tight GM production line specs. Hence why Merc 40w is recommended spec.

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main bearings after 600ish hours on $12 15w40.